Well no K, because they were hushing it up!  I remember seeing photos in one of the anarcho type mags I think it was but a few mainstream agencies covered it too at the time. I studied world history and Politics at A level as a (very) mature student 10 years ago and when you realise what dirty tricks are done every day by governments all over the world and how they use their partners in the media to hoodwink us all it makes you really cynical.

Manufacturing Consent by Noam Chomsky is a real eye opener - but he is bloody difficult to read

Donald Trump will not like it. 

Benazir Bhutto interview 2007 (2min 21 secs)

 

Aye, been a bit quiet this time though, eh.  Must know summat.

I don't know if what we are hearing is true, nor do I  think the death of Bin Laden will make the world a safer place. As Brisket said, there will always be terrorists.  I would rather Bin Laden had been called to account for his crimes and spent the rest of his life in jail, but that was never a viable alternative, and if he is dead, then so be it..........

 

I've been doing Social Sciences for the last year and it's slightly touched on politics but I don't like it (have never really been into politics that much, tbh). I know it's an ignorance but there's some stuff I think I'd just rather not know when it comes to all that.

hahahaha sorry but that did make me LOL

Gaddafi's facebook page

 

http://www.thepoke.co.uk/2011/...s-facebook-page-wtf/

I want some evidence. Someone's bound to have filmed it on their mobile phone, right?

And Pakistan was unaware he was there? Hmmmmm

It's all very well them saying he has been killed, and they have disposed of him at sea, but prove it!

He was allegedly living in luxury? The pictures they showed was hardly luxury.

I'm by no means a conspiracy theorist, but something doesn't seem right in all this.

 

Of course, his death is not going to stop their cause. We should all be very careful imo.

There must have been a fanatic out there with 'is/'er mobile poised........

It is true I tell you! Hilary Clinton could not possibly fake that reaction! 

unless there aren't that many mobile phone junkies in abbotabad

According to to C4 news, someone tweeted it live: @ReallyVirtual

 

I Lolled reading his tweets

It's nice to see Obama baiting the psychos like a good 'un. That'll end well then 

They are everywhere......poised for good or bad.....

I was looking at the pic of the compound on googlemaps and in the comments someone had actually wrote

"WooT woot, USA! USA! "

They certainly put themselves out there the American's don't they... celebrating and taking full responsibility.

Innit dough! Happy slapping just ain't the same these days. The US crew that boyed him up were proper lame

They don't need to prove it, because it would be so easy to disprove it if it wasn't true.

 

For me, this is like one of the main reasons often cited for not believing the conspiracy theory that the US didn't land on the moon: the USSR accepted that they did. The Soviets were the USA's great space rival, and would have been monitoring their space programme: if they knew the US had faked a moon landing, don't you think they'd have shouted it from the rooftops?

 

So it is with Bin Laden. If he was still alive, don't you think YouTube and the like would be bombarded with recordings of him mocking the West?

At most, the only valid conspracy theory is possibly that the US have captured him alive, and have him stashed away somewhere. Even trying to keep that secret would be incredibly risky for the Americans, though...

i'm like you, i tend to go down the path of least resistance and accept things as they are more agreed on, just to give my coupla brain cells a rest. but, conspiracy theories can be a good read, provide some needed scepticism and encourage debate.

Give it some time

It took OBL over a year to claim 911 as his own handy work and the US kept the USSR in grain everytime their crop failed(Don't bite the hand that feeds you)

 

 

 

"I mourn the loss of thousands of precious lives, but I will not rejoice in the death of one, not even an enemy." - Martin Luther King, Jr

I'm happy to rejoice in his death. (assuming that he did really exist)

After all I've read.. I'm not even sure that OBL ever existed

But there'll have to be a pretty special government before I ever trust one again.

 

This.

So Barack Obama watched it live on TV.

 

So did they send a TV crew to set up all the cameras and mics like Sky Sports setting up for a big football match? Wonder if it was in HD or even 3D! "Err hello Mr Bin Laden, we're just here from Fox Sports to set up all the cameras for the big fight live tonight".

 

Surely this footage will be leaked somehow? I won't believe it fully until I see it and no I won't believe it if I see some footage of a body being thrown off the side of a boat either - it could be some madame tussauds style waxwork for all we know!

Bit annoying that once again... we have something good to shout about (The Royal Wedding) and another country gatecrashes the party with more war.

 

Well, they both involve royalty in deep water. 

Another MLK quote which I think is quite apt here:


"Returning hate for hate multiplies hate, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness: only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate: only love can do that."

Hi Peter

 

That is a really good and pertinent quote. I hope you don't mind me using it to challenge you on something.

If you do believe that, how can you say that you will get the bunting out when Mrs Thatcher dies?

Okay we know what she did to this country, but she is still someone's mother....She is also a very sick old woman... is that not poetic justice enough, if indeed that is what we are looking for?

I wonder if the Russians were in on this? You would have thought that they had first claim after losing so many young conscripts. They were tortured, mutilated and missing, whilst idiots like Sandy Gall stood on the sidelines and cheered. Part of me would prefer a trial. Rather like Sadaam Hussein we would have then discovered the whole sordid truth. However this set of actions seemed more practical.

So I guess with no tv and no internet in his luxurious compound OBL didn't get to see the wedding??? 

 

I don't believe what they did was right.  I don't believe shooting him (if that's what happened) and killing him was the way to go.  I also don't believe that for the past 10 years they didn't know where he was and now because some guy in Guantanamo Bay finally has enough of the torture and finally rats him out?  I don't know why all this is coming out now but my feeling on it is it's because Obama said he would end the war in Iraq and Afghanistan and bring their troops home and killing Bin Laden is the only way he could do that.  If they didn't know where he was all this time, the Facebook Groups are true and he is the World Hide and Seek Champion  They found Hussein in a hole in the ground ffs and they couldn't find Bin Laden living it up in a compound?

 

Whatever happened, it was nothing more than a revenge killing.  Yes Bin Laden was a terrorist, yes he committed more than enough crimes to deserve the death he got, but does that mean the US Government who sing from the roof tops about human rights had the right to carry it out?  I don't believe they did.  Terrorists always take up action for a reason, Bin Laden got peed off with US troops moving into Saudi which is allegedly what sparked off his terrorist lifestyle.  It doesn't excuse what they do, but I always think it's important to look at what motivates people to join these groups, not to sympathise with them but to understand that there are two sides to every story and it's not just as simple as  Them = Bad  US = Good.

 

Anyhow, that's my rant on it all

I agree  with Cagney and spongee who can blame the Americans  they have every right to feel victorious it was on his orders that gave the go ahead for 9/11 there were British killed that day too, he was also willing to let his own men die whilst he hid all over the place ..ask the families whose relatives  died that day ..they will say justice has been done..

I can understand a slight unease from ourselves. There's an element of the Wild West about this chain of events. We don 't have much in common with the Americans and would have preferred Bin Liner to have his day in court. We like to subject such nutjobs to derision, disrespect, sarcasm etc. Yet! I can't think of any practical way to achieve that. Still alive, and in custody, he might present some further security threat to the Spanish, the Russians, the British, the USA, or any other country he has wronged. Maybe this way out, and disposing of his body in a secret location was a better way out.

Very well said, you took the words out of my mouth.  Whilst I am sure that countless people are relieved or pleased that he is dead, with justification,  I think the jubilation that has been reported is quite sickening, and makes those who have behaved like that little better than the people they were so quick to castigate for doing the same after 11 September.  Whilst I would have preferred to have seen Bin Laden captured and tried, I don't have a real problem with the fact that he has been killed, but I can't udnerstand how any civilised human being rejoice publicly in this way over the death of another person.

What about the justice for the Afghans and the Iraqi's who had nothing to do with the Taliban, Al Quaeda or any other terrorist organisations who have been shot, killed, maimed, their lands destroyed by bombs falling far from where they should? Do they not deserve justice? Are they now allowed go to the US and shoot Obama?