It's more than my job's worth

I haven't got a scooby, Soozy!

I am so nicking that!

I have already thought of three places I want to stick it


 I am so next in line to see the shop steward! It's a witch hunt!

Jeez Louise I've never been paid a days overtime in my life and at the moment I'm regularly working 12 hours+ a week over my contracted time to keep on top of my caseload. OK so technically I'm a "professional" but I get paid less than many people in so-called blue collar jobs and that doesn't make me any less pissed off with colleagues who work their basic contracted hours and then expect me to pick up their slack.

I think the request should have been phrased better and I apologise for missing any post that says otherwise but if you are being paid that same then what's the difference between working that bit extra on the Thursday rather then Friday? The thing is .... you'd have to do it on the Tuesday and a long weekend of caked on crap will be all the harder to shift.

nothing is caked on all food stuff etc is cleaned as and when so on wed all dishes, cookers, serveries etc will be cleand on wednesday before we go!  TLhis cleaning is just routine weekly walls, doors under the servery where its too hot to do aftre service that sort of thing nothing that wont wait till tues when we have 2.30hrs to do it.

Basicaly what i'm complaining about is doing 3hrs instead of 2.30 for no extra pay! Petty i know but its the point.

As someone else said if she asked in a better way this wouldn't have arisen!  she just said 'i'll get you to come in 10.30 instead of 11!  The manager doesn't know we go 5mins early now and again as he's never there the only way he'll know is cos she phoned him before i did and told him!  What about the girl who goes in early 10 mins everyday she's still got to come in too so its soo not the time thing!

do any of the other ppl working with you feel the same duchess?..........if so.....maybe you could all go and see your manager and explain how you feel it's unfair..........i work in a school kitchen myself so know how hard work it is.....unfortunately catering staff are viewed as the lowest of the low........the teachers at our school seem surprised i'm there at 8am.......it's if they think the 200 odd rolls,wraps and sarnies i do appear by magic!!!.....then there's the.......'oh we have a meeting in 5 minutes....could you do us a buffet lunch?'.......]

my boss fortunately is alot more flexible and nicer than yours!!.....though the boss over her is a complete nightmare and thinks  nothing of letting us work in a kitchen full of gas leaks!!........thankfully this has now been resolved.

if you enjoy your job......which i gather you do as you've been there for so long......maybe's you'll just have to bite the bullet on this one.

have a happy hols anyway xxx........

Errr, no! That is for working a bank holiday. She's not being asked to.

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The people who think i'm complaining over nothing have said they get time and a half plus a day in leiu so i don't know where they are coming from, do you work for nothing at anytime i know this is only 30 mins but in my hours (13) that's a lot 30mins in a 40hr week for example is nothing but would you work for 4hrs for example for nothing??

For working a full day on a bank holiday. Not for spending half an hour during my normal working week doing a task which I have been paid to do and would normally be doing on Friday if I hadn't been given the day off. Not the same thing at all.

They've just moved half an hour from the Bank Holiday, to a normal working day, which is hardly fair!

They've moved a task - which she is being paid to carry out - from one day to another so she can have the bank holiday off.
Maybe she'd prefer being made to come in for half an hour on Good Friday?  Or not cleaning up at all - and losing half an hour's pay for not doing a task that she had agreed to spend an extra half-hour a week doing?

My niece is working the Easter weekend,but she is getting triple time for it.She's in a union.

They clean up everyday, though.

This is an extra clean, which will be repeated on the Tuesday after Easter, anyway.

The fact is, they are moving some of her working time from a bank holiday, to a normal working day, without compensation for losing that half hour of holiday.
It may only be half an hour, but the principle is the same.

That's not what she said in her OP, Blizzie. She said they normally do an extra half-hour on Fridays for cleaning. All she's being asked to do is move it to Thursday, so she can have all of Friday off. Maybe she really would prefer being made to come in and work on bank holiday? Plenty of us do.

It's her right to have all of Friday off. Like you I have worked countless  Good Fridays, Christmas, and New Years but with heavy compensation.

 And she's getting it off. All she's being asked to do is cover a task she'd normally do on a Friday - and is being paid for.

She wouldn't normally do the task on Good Friday. and raises 'toid a 

Therefore, she`s not getting her full holiday entitlement of 3hrs.

She'd normally do it every other Friday though. She's not being paid half an hour less for the whole week, so why should she do half an hour less work?
I'll see your  and raise you a

(Alas! I have run out of suitable obscene gestures) The Bank Holiday is sacrosanct. Do not diss the Lord.

She is paid for 13 hours a week.
3 of those hours are on a Friday, which happens to be a Bank Holiday, so she should get three hours off this week.
Moving some of that time to the Thursday, without compensating her, is not fair, whichever way you look at it.

Ahh, we're not going to agree, so I'll leave it there. I guess I'm too used to regularly putting in extra unpaid time, to get the job done, to identify much with people who moan about the odd half hour.

I think a lot of us have had decent contracts and renumeration and don't worry about a few minutes here and there. However, one of my favourite work placed expressions is "The thin end of the wedge!"  Make no mistake! In just the same way as Trade Unionists meet up and compare notes, then so do employers and their evil attack dogs the HR people. They take the same magazines and they take turns to try new things on.

I don't think you're being unreasonable...

Would they pay you for an extra half hour you HADN'T worked...nope...same thing the other way round...

demantoid, if you got all your work done in time, would you still go in for an extra couple of hours for no pay?

exactly!

Hi Duchess, did you have a nice anniversary?

Hi super, it wasn't bad hubby had  a bit of an off stomach so we left the meal and just went for a few drinks with daughters in the nighttime. We'll go for the meal next week instead thanks for asking.

But if you don't do the cleaning, you haven't done all your work in time - you said you were paid to do an extra half hour of it each week.

but would you work for no pay if you had done all your work?

when you work on good friday, then you get your day off in leiu do you go in early the day before to do the work you would've done on that day off!!  for no pay!!

Duchess, your thread title said "opinions please" not "only opinions that agree with me, please".

If you get offended by people disagreeing with you, don't ask what they think!

 

you still didn't answer the question! I'm not offended i just cant see where your coming from

So do you go in the day before you have a day off to do work you would've done on that day off, with no pay!!  Simple question!  I don't get paid to clean on thursdays i get paid to clean on fridays this friday is a day off, i haven't got the choice to go in the school is closed.

I did answer, you just don't like my answer. Again - if I was required to carry out a weekly task, and the day I normally did it fell on a day I'd been given off, I'd have no problem with doing it the day before. Because I'd been already paid to do it. Of course.

thats the point i'm not getting paid to do it!

Are you being paid less this week, because of Good Friday?

It's not the same at all. We're talking about half an hour, not a full day's work. Duchess has already agreed that her job requires her to do it, and that she's paid for it. So if she doesn't do it, should she still get paid for it?

She`s not being paid for it. She normally works 13 hours per week. This week she`s got an entitled bank holiday of 3 hours. Include that and she`s working 131/2 hours this week without being paid for the extra 1/2 hour.

But her job requires that she helps to clean up. And, unless she is being paid less this week than usual (because of the bank holiday), she is being paid to do it.

But but but...her working week is normally 13 hours, she`s officially working 131/2 hours and she`s not getting paid extra.  She`s being told to do it. It`s not part of her contract.

But but but but
Didn't she say it's part of the job to do half an hour's cleaning every week? It's tough luck that it falls on a Friday. Both her boss - and her boss's boss - see it that way, at least.
If it's really worth getting upset about half an hour, maybe duchess needs to change jobs.

good analogy!  So instead of going in on the thurs and sweeping for 7hrs would you do it for an hour say and not get paid?