quote:Originally posted by Shar:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Videostar:
if you want Lisa to win by proxy then vote Sophie to win.
QUOTE]
No logic to that AT ALL VS ...
Well it's true logic, Lisa and Kris will be delighted if she wins.
Well it's true logic, Lisa and Kris will be delighted if she wins.
Was never a fan of Sophie made that clear, she annoys me and her hair, I find her shallow 
. True that she was a part of Team Lisa and won't forget that how she joined in against Freddie, when Kris and Karly left she showed a different side to her personality, don't want her to win though nice girl though I will say 
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. True that she was a part of Team Lisa and won't forget that how she joined in against Freddie, when Kris and Karly left she showed a different side to her personality, don't want her to win though nice girl though I will say .
quote:Originally posted by Videostar:
It was the way she was happy to gang up against Freddie with the others.
That night in the bedroom when Lisa was shouting at Freddie, she was giggling with the others finding it ever so funny.
I dont scream bully because it's against my HM at all, never have done, but it was widely accepted that she was as bad as the others in those weeks.
Yes ... in those weeks VS ... she was easily led at the beginning ... the point I'm making is that she has grown and matured as a person in the house and is now not afraid to voice her own opinion even if it is not shared by the majority of the house ... You have to remember that she is young and for her to defend Siavash the way she did the other night, for example, is a huge step forward from the Sophie who first entered the house ...
quote:Originally posted by Shar:quote:Originally posted by Videostar:quote:Originally posted by Supercalifragilistic:quote:Originally posted by Videostar:
Well I find it worse that those who "claim" to have supported Freddie now want Team Lisa member SOPHIE to win.
Funny VS, I guessed that you were all lined up for Sophie hate as your next mission!
Why?
Is it because I have a long memory and dont forgive bullies.?
How was Sophie ever a bully ...?????
The worst instance of bullying that i saw directed towards Freddie was when the cowards - Cairon and Marcus threw his mattress in the toilet.
quote:Originally posted by Shar:quote:Originally posted by Videostar:
It was the way she was happy to gang up against Freddie with the others.
That night in the bedroom when Lisa was shouting at Freddie, she was giggling with the others finding it ever so funny.
I dont scream bully because it's against my HM at all, never have done, but it was widely accepted that she was as bad as the others in those weeks.
Yes ... in those weeks VS ... she was easily led at the beginning ... the point I'm making is that she has grown and matured as a person in the house and is now not afraid to voice her own opinion even if it is not shared by the majority of the house ... You have to remember that she is young and for her to defend Siavash the way she did the other night, for example, is a huge step forward from the Sophie who first entered the house ...
But even after Kris left she was no different with Freddie, making fun of how he talks, mocking him behind his back, saying he was in a straight jacket, and so on.
Just because shes pretty and blonde doesn't make her easily led, thats just an easy excuse that her fans trot out to justify her behaviour..
quote:Originally posted by Cold Sweat:quote:Originally posted by Shar:quote:Originally posted by Videostar:quote:Originally posted by Supercalifragilistic:quote:Originally posted by Videostar:
Well I find it worse that those who "claim" to have supported Freddie now want Team Lisa member SOPHIE to win.
Funny VS, I guessed that you were all lined up for Sophie hate as your next mission!
Why?
Is it because I have a long memory and dont forgive bullies.?
How was Sophie ever a bully ...?????
The worst instance of bullying that i saw directed towards Freddie was when the cowards - Cairon and Marcus threw his mattress in the toilet.
And who was there in the background laughing her head off.?
quote:Originally posted by Videostar:quote:Originally posted by Supercalifragilistic:quote:Originally posted by Videostar:
Well I find it worse that those who "claim" to have supported Freddie now want Team Lisa member SOPHIE to win.
Funny VS, I guessed that you were all lined up for Sophie hate as your next mission!
Why?
Is it because I have a long memory and dont forgive bullies.?
Nah, just a feeling in my bones re the way things were heading!
quote:Originally posted by Cold Sweat:
The worst instance of bullying that i saw directed towards Freddie was when the cowards - Cairon and Marcus threw his mattress in the toilet.
You have a better memory than me, I'd completely forgotten that. Yes that was before Marcus realised Freddie was popular outside, so he'd not started his fake friendship with him yet.
quote:Originally posted by ŅÏÎđâŅŅОÏηКŅÎģ:quote:Originally posted by Cold Sweat:
The worst instance of bullying that i saw directed towards Freddie was when the cowards - Cairon and Marcus threw his mattress in the toilet.
You have a better memory than me, I'd completely forgotten that. Yes that was before Marcus realised Freddie was popular outside, so he'd not started his fake friendship with him yet.
The same time as Sophie and her team Lisa mates pretended that they thought that Freddie wasn't such a bad chap after all so stoppd nominating him.
Lest we forget that Siavash once nominated Freddie also.
quote:Originally posted by Videostar:
Lest we forget that Siavash once nominated Freddie also.
The first week. Big deal
quote:Originally posted by Videostar:
Lest we forget that Siavash once nominated Freddie also.
Do you actually like anyone in there now VS?
quote:Originally posted by The Guru:quote:Originally posted by Videostar:
Lest we forget that Siavash once nominated Freddie also.
The first week. Big deal
It still happened and he claimed to have liked Freddie even then.
Marcus nominated him twice.
quote:Originally posted by Supercalifragilistic:quote:Originally posted by Videostar:
Lest we forget that Siavash once nominated Freddie also.
Do you actually like anyone in there now VS?
No, used to like Siavash but now I know he is as bad as Charlie.
quote:Originally posted by Videostar:
But even after Kris left she was no different with Freddie, making fun of how he talks, mocking him behind his back, saying he was in a straight jacket, and so on.
Just because shes pretty and blonde doesn't make her easily led, thats just an easy excuse that her fans trot out to justify her behaviour..
I'm not making excuses for her behaviour ... and I was a Freddie fan ... but ... she didn't like him ... so anything negative she said about him should be taken in the ame vein as anything negative said about another HM by any other HM ...
OK ... I will say that, yes, the period of bullying that was inflicted on Freddie in the house should be apportioned to those who inflicted it on him ... and yes, Sophie was part of that in going along with the gang ...
WTF ...???
How did I find myself defending Sophie ...?
I HATE the rest of them with such a vengeance that it's easy to support the Vash, followed by Sophie ....
quote:Originally posted by ŅÏÎđâŅŅОÏηКŅÎģ:quote:Originally posted by Cold Sweat:
The worst instance of bullying that i saw directed towards Freddie was when the cowards - Cairon and Marcus threw his mattress in the toilet.
You have a better memory than me, I'd completely forgotten that. Yes that was before Marcus realised Freddie was popular outside, so he'd not started his fake friendship with him yet.
I was surprised not to see more footage of Sree during the eviction show tonight. You would have thought that an incident that the evicted housemate was issued a warning for would be included...
quote:Originally posted by Videostar:quote:Originally posted by The Guru:quote:Originally posted by Videostar:
Lest we forget that Siavash once nominated Freddie also.
The first week. Big deal
It still happened and he claimed to have liked Freddie even then.
Desperate.
quote:Originally posted by ŅÏÎđâŅŅОÏηКŅÎģ:
Marcus nominated him twice.
Yes I know, once because he thought Freddie was after Noirin.
I never said Marcus was perfect, but he never said he was close to anyone in the house.
quote:Originally posted by The Guru:quote:Originally posted by Videostar:quote:Originally posted by The Guru:quote:Originally posted by Videostar:
Lest we forget that Siavash once nominated Freddie also.
The first week. Big deal
It still happened and he claimed to have liked Freddie even then.
Desperate.
Just like this thread to demonise Marcus.
quote:Originally posted by ŅÏÎđâŅŅОÏηКŅÎģ:
Marcus nominated him twice.
... before feeding him to the public during Week 10...
quote:Originally posted by Videostar:quote:Originally posted by The Guru:quote:Originally posted by Videostar:quote:Originally posted by The Guru:quote:Originally posted by Videostar:
Lest we forget that Siavash once nominated Freddie also.
The first week. Big deal
It still happened and he claimed to have liked Freddie even then.
Desperate.
Just like this thread to demonise Marcus.
Are you saying Marcus is whiter than white and doesn't deserve critisism?
He's supporting someone that tried to bully and isolate Freddie. Maybe you should watch back the early part of the show to get a gentle reminder about how nasty she is?
quote:Originally posted by The Guru:quote:Originally posted by Videostar:quote:Originally posted by The Guru:quote:Originally posted by Videostar:quote:Originally posted by The Guru:quote:Originally posted by Videostar:
Lest we forget that Siavash once nominated Freddie also.
The first week. Big deal
It still happened and he claimed to have liked Freddie even then.
Desperate.
Just like this thread to demonise Marcus.
Are you saying Marcus is whiter than white and doesn't deserve critisism?
He's supporting someone that tried to bully and isolate Freddie. Maybe you should watch back the early part of the show to get a gentle reminder about how nasty she is?
I have never claimed that Marcus is whiter than white, Marcus himself wouldn't say that either, and I totally dont agree with him wanting Lisa to win anymore than I agreed with Freddie wanting Rodrigo to win.
I dont need a reminder as to how nasty Lisa really is, I have her behaviour burned into my mind, I HATE BULLIES.
BUT the OP of this thread is slating Marcus for supporting Lisa and yet the OP supports Sophie who has always ben just as nasty to Freddie and is in Lisa's little gang.
quote:Originally posted by Videostar:quote:Originally posted by The Guru:quote:Originally posted by Videostar:quote:Originally posted by The Guru:quote:Originally posted by Videostar:quote:Originally posted by The Guru:quote:Originally posted by Videostar:
Lest we forget that Siavash once nominated Freddie also.
The first week. Big deal
It still happened and he claimed to have liked Freddie even then.
Desperate.
Just like this thread to demonise Marcus.
Are you saying Marcus is whiter than white and doesn't deserve critisism?
He's supporting someone that tried to bully and isolate Freddie. Maybe you should watch back the early part of the show to get a gentle reminder about how nasty she is?
I have never claimed that Marcus is whiter than white, Marcus himself wouldn't say that either, and I totally dont agree with him wanting Lisa to win anymore than I agreed with Freddie wanting Rodrigo to win.
I dont need a reminder as to how nasty Lisa really is, I have her behaviour burned into my mind, I HATE BULLIES.
BUT the OP of this thread is slating Marcus for supporting Lisa and yet the OP supports Sophie who has always ben just as nasty to Freddie and is in Lisa's little gang.
But Lisa was a total bitch to Freddie, it made for very uncomfortable viewing.
Sophie was no where near that nasty. Not a chance.
quote:Originally posted by The Guru:quote:Originally posted by Videostar:quote:Originally posted by The Guru:quote:Originally posted by Videostar:quote:Originally posted by The Guru:quote:Originally posted by Videostar:quote:Originally posted by The Guru:quote:Originally posted by Videostar:
Lest we forget that Siavash once nominated Freddie also.
The first week. Big deal
It still happened and he claimed to have liked Freddie even then.
Desperate.
Just like this thread to demonise Marcus.
Are you saying Marcus is whiter than white and doesn't deserve critisism?
He's supporting someone that tried to bully and isolate Freddie. Maybe you should watch back the early part of the show to get a gentle reminder about how nasty she is?
I have never claimed that Marcus is whiter than white, Marcus himself wouldn't say that either, and I totally dont agree with him wanting Lisa to win anymore than I agreed with Freddie wanting Rodrigo to win.
I dont need a reminder as to how nasty Lisa really is, I have her behaviour burned into my mind, I HATE BULLIES.
BUT the OP of this thread is slating Marcus for supporting Lisa and yet the OP supports Sophie who has always ben just as nasty to Freddie and is in Lisa's little gang.
But Lisa was a total bitch to Freddie, it made for very uncomfortable viewing.
Sophie was no where near that nasty. Not a chance.
If Sophie wasn't as bad why would she slag Freddie off to please Lisa all the time, never mind continue to hang around with such a bitch like Lisa.?
Either Sophie was playing a game to stay with the bigger group (no matter how nasty they were) or she agreed with their opinions on Freddie.
quote:Originally posted by Videostar:
BUT the OP of this thread is slating Marcus for supporting Lisa and yet the OP supports Sophie who has always ben just as nasty to Freddie and is in Lisa's little gang.
VS ... group dynamics are ever-changing in the house and Sophie has not been a member of 'Lisa's Gang' in a while now ... Not much point dragging up Freddie stuff now ... surely the point is how she is placed in the house right now ...?
And, if that is the case, how can you class her in Lisa's group ....?
quote:Originally posted by Videostar:quote:Originally posted by The Guru:quote:Originally posted by Videostar:quote:Originally posted by The Guru:quote:Originally posted by Videostar:quote:Originally posted by The Guru:quote:Originally posted by Videostar:quote:Originally posted by The Guru:quote:Originally posted by Videostar:
Lest we forget that Siavash once nominated Freddie also.
The first week. Big deal
It still happened and he claimed to have liked Freddie even then.
Desperate.
Just like this thread to demonise Marcus.
Are you saying Marcus is whiter than white and doesn't deserve critisism?
He's supporting someone that tried to bully and isolate Freddie. Maybe you should watch back the early part of the show to get a gentle reminder about how nasty she is?
I have never claimed that Marcus is whiter than white, Marcus himself wouldn't say that either, and I totally dont agree with him wanting Lisa to win anymore than I agreed with Freddie wanting Rodrigo to win.
I dont need a reminder as to how nasty Lisa really is, I have her behaviour burned into my mind, I HATE BULLIES.
BUT the OP of this thread is slating Marcus for supporting Lisa and yet the OP supports Sophie who has always ben just as nasty to Freddie and is in Lisa's little gang.
But Lisa was a total bitch to Freddie, it made for very uncomfortable viewing.
Sophie was no where near that nasty. Not a chance.
If Sophie wasn't as bad why would she slag Freddie off to please Lisa all the time, never mind continue to hang around with such a bitch like Lisa.?
Either Sophie was playing a game to stay with the bigger group (no matter how nasty they were) or she agreed with their opinions on Freddie.
Nope, sorry. You will never convince me that Sophie was as bad as Lisa. Not even close!
Lisa was aggressive. She got in his face. She prodded his head. There was no need for that shiz.
quote:Originally posted by Shar:quote:Originally posted by Videostar:
BUT the OP of this thread is slating Marcus for supporting Lisa and yet the OP supports Sophie who has always ben just as nasty to Freddie and is in Lisa's little gang.
VS ... group dynamics are ever-changing in the house and Sophie has not been a member of 'Lisa's Gang' in a while now ... Not much point dragging up Freddie stuff now ... surely the point is how she is placed in the house right now ...?
And, if that is the case, how can you class her in Lisa's group ....?
She still behaved in that way towards Freddie, doesn't matter how many weeks ago it happened.
quote:Originally posted by The Guru:quote:Originally posted by Videostar:quote:Originally posted by The Guru:quote:Originally posted by Videostar:quote:Originally posted by The Guru:quote:Originally posted by Videostar:quote:Originally posted by The Guru:quote:Originally posted by Videostar:quote:Originally posted by The Guru:quote:Originally posted by Videostar:
Lest we forget that Siavash once nominated Freddie also.
The first week. Big deal
It still happened and he claimed to have liked Freddie even then.
Desperate.
Just like this thread to demonise Marcus.
Are you saying Marcus is whiter than white and doesn't deserve critisism?
He's supporting someone that tried to bully and isolate Freddie. Maybe you should watch back the early part of the show to get a gentle reminder about how nasty she is?
I have never claimed that Marcus is whiter than white, Marcus himself wouldn't say that either, and I totally dont agree with him wanting Lisa to win anymore than I agreed with Freddie wanting Rodrigo to win.
I dont need a reminder as to how nasty Lisa really is, I have her behaviour burned into my mind, I HATE BULLIES.
BUT the OP of this thread is slating Marcus for supporting Lisa and yet the OP supports Sophie who has always ben just as nasty to Freddie and is in Lisa's little gang.
But Lisa was a total bitch to Freddie, it made for very uncomfortable viewing.
Sophie was no where near that nasty. Not a chance.
If Sophie wasn't as bad why would she slag Freddie off to please Lisa all the time, never mind continue to hang around with such a bitch like Lisa.?
Either Sophie was playing a game to stay with the bigger group (no matter how nasty they were) or she agreed with their opinions on Freddie.
Nope, sorry. You will never convince me that Sophie was as bad as Lisa. Not even close!
Lisa was aggressive. She got in his face. She prodded his head. There was no need for that shiz.
But Sophie found Lisa's behaviour highly amusing, Sophie might not have been right in Freddie's face bt she openly hated him and was foul about him.
We will have to agree to disagree VS.
quote:Originally posted by Videostar:quote:Originally posted by Shar:quote:Originally posted by Videostar:
BUT the OP of this thread is slating Marcus for supporting Lisa and yet the OP supports Sophie who has always ben just as nasty to Freddie and is in Lisa's little gang.
VS ... group dynamics are ever-changing in the house and Sophie has not been a member of 'Lisa's Gang' in a while now ... Not much point dragging up Freddie stuff now ... surely the point is how she is placed in the house right now ...?
And, if that is the case, how can you class her in Lisa's group ....?
She still behaved in that way towards Freddie, doesn't matter how many weeks ago it happened.
OK ... I give up VS ... either the point has completely gone over your head or you've not bothered to read my post ... goodnight ...
Sophie is her own person and rightly or wrongly they are her opinions and votes, she never liked Marcus or Freddie from week one, it had nothing to do with Lisa........................none of the HMs liked Freddie and I say none,
me personally well five minutes in boring Freds company would be five minutes to much of the mumbling mmmm mmm fools company.
me personally well five minutes in boring Freds company would be five minutes to much of the mumbling mmmm mmm fools company.
quote:Originally posted by Shar:quote:Originally posted by Videostar:quote:Originally posted by Shar:quote:Originally posted by Videostar:
BUT the OP of this thread is slating Marcus for supporting Lisa and yet the OP supports Sophie who has always ben just as nasty to Freddie and is in Lisa's little gang.
VS ... group dynamics are ever-changing in the house and Sophie has not been a member of 'Lisa's Gang' in a while now ... Not much point dragging up Freddie stuff now ... surely the point is how she is placed in the house right now ...?
And, if that is the case, how can you class her in Lisa's group ....?
She still behaved in that way towards Freddie, doesn't matter how many weeks ago it happened.
OK ... I give up VS ... either the point has completely gone over your head or you've not bothered to read my post ... goodnight ...
I read your point and I understand it about things change in the house as HM's leave, but that doesn't excuse how she behved.
She Likes Lisa even more than Marcus does, so if you slate Marcus for liking her then why is Sophie let off the hook.?
Goodnight, thanks for the rudness.
quote:Originally posted by Azure:
Sophie is her own person and rightly or wrongly they are her opinions and votes, she never liked Marcus or Freddie from week one, it had nothing to do with Lisa........................none of the HMs liked Freddie and I say none,
me personally well five minutes in boring Freds company would be five minutes to much of the mumbling mmmm mmm fools company.
Yes Azure, you'd have been right along in there with Lisa and friends.
quote:Originally posted by Videostar:quote:Originally posted by The Guru:quote:Originally posted by Videostar:quote:Originally posted by The Guru:quote:Originally posted by Videostar:quote:Originally posted by The Guru:quote:Originally posted by Videostar:
Lest we forget that Siavash once nominated Freddie also.
The first week. Big deal
It still happened and he claimed to have liked Freddie even then.
Desperate.
Just like this thread to demonise Marcus.
Are you saying Marcus is whiter than white and doesn't deserve critisism?
He's supporting someone that tried to bully and isolate Freddie. Maybe you should watch back the early part of the show to get a gentle reminder about how nasty she is?
I have never claimed that Marcus is whiter than white, Marcus himself wouldn't say that either, and I totally dont agree with him wanting Lisa to win anymore than I agreed with Freddie wanting Rodrigo to win.
I dont need a reminder as to how nasty Lisa really is, I have her behaviour burned into my mind, I HATE BULLIES.
BUT the OP of this thread is slating Marcus for supporting Lisa and yet the OP supports Sophie who has always ben just as nasty to Freddie and is in Lisa's little gang.
The same Sophie that was always happy to let Freddie prance around in her dressing gown during weeks 4 and 5... i think it's important to see good and bad in all housemates... because that is what they display.
However, i can see that you have gone on the attack following the result tonight, and i can see this forum being a battle groud throughout finale week, sad really...
quote:Originally posted by Videostar:quote:Originally posted by Azure:
Sophie is her own person and rightly or wrongly they are her opinions and votes, she never liked Marcus or Freddie from week one, it had nothing to do with Lisa........................none of the HMs liked Freddie and I say none,
me personally well five minutes in boring Freds company would be five minutes to much of the mumbling mmmm mmm fools company.
Yes Azure, you'd have been right along in there with Lisa and friends.
I cannot stand Lisa. However, without Lisa; would Sophie have got hair extensions this week?
quote:Originally posted by Cold Sweat:quote:Originally posted by Videostar:quote:Originally posted by The Guru:quote:Originally posted by Videostar:quote:Originally posted by The Guru:quote:Originally posted by Videostar:quote:Originally posted by The Guru:quote:Originally posted by Videostar:
Lest we forget that Siavash once nominated Freddie also.
The first week. Big deal
It still happened and he claimed to have liked Freddie even then.
Desperate.
Just like this thread to demonise Marcus.
Are you saying Marcus is whiter than white and doesn't deserve critisism?
He's supporting someone that tried to bully and isolate Freddie. Maybe you should watch back the early part of the show to get a gentle reminder about how nasty she is?
I have never claimed that Marcus is whiter than white, Marcus himself wouldn't say that either, and I totally dont agree with him wanting Lisa to win anymore than I agreed with Freddie wanting Rodrigo to win.
I dont need a reminder as to how nasty Lisa really is, I have her behaviour burned into my mind, I HATE BULLIES.
BUT the OP of this thread is slating Marcus for supporting Lisa and yet the OP supports Sophie who has always ben just as nasty to Freddie and is in Lisa's little gang.
The same Sophie that was always happy to let Freddie prance around in her dressing gown during weeks 4 and 5... i think it's important to see good and bad in all housemates... because that is what they display.
However, i can see that you have gone on the attack following the result tonight, and i can see this forum being a battle groud throughout finale week, sad really...
Be like that if you like, but I just hate double standards.
Im not going on the attack, I just want some fairness and balance here, it does seem to me that Siavash and Sophie have not been fair in their not nominating tactics lately which has mainly ruined the game, and has got the wrong people evicted.
Sophie has some good qualities but I will not forget that she was a member of team Lisa.
I fear she will win next week, guess who will be the first to give her a big hug next week on BBBM....KRIS.
quote:Originally posted by Cold Sweat:quote:Originally posted by Videostar:quote:Originally posted by Azure:
Sophie is her own person and rightly or wrongly they are her opinions and votes, she never liked Marcus or Freddie from week one, it had nothing to do with Lisa........................none of the HMs liked Freddie and I say none,
me personally well five minutes in boring Freds company would be five minutes to much of the mumbling mmmm mmm fools company.
Yes Azure, you'd have been right along in there with Lisa and friends.
I cannot stand Lisa. However, without Lisa; would Sophie have got hair extensions this week?
Sophie should never have got those hair extentions, they are not a basic need for any HM.
quote:Originally posted by Videostar:quote:Originally posted by Cold Sweat:quote:Originally posted by Videostar:quote:Originally posted by Azure:
Sophie is her own person and rightly or wrongly they are her opinions and votes, she never liked Marcus or Freddie from week one, it had nothing to do with Lisa........................none of the HMs liked Freddie and I say none,
me personally well five minutes in boring Freds company would be five minutes to much of the mumbling mmmm mmm fools company.
Yes Azure, you'd have been right along in there with Lisa and friends.
I cannot stand Lisa. However, without Lisa; would Sophie have got hair extensions this week?
Sophie should never have got those hair extentions, they are not a basic need for any HM.
It wasn't a basic budget though. You cannot just dismiss what meaning and importance she attaches to such an item - just because it means nothing to you.
quote:Originally posted by Videostar:quote:Originally posted by Azure:
Sophie is her own person and rightly or wrongly they are her opinions and votes, she never liked Marcus or Freddie from week one, it had nothing to do with Lisa........................none of the HMs liked Freddie and I say none,
me personally well five minutes in boring Freds company would be five minutes to much of the mumbling mmmm mmm fools company.
Yes Azure, you'd have been right along in there with Lisa and friends.
Nah VS I have to much spirit and respect for truth and values to care about any one in the house, I do however think I am a member of the GBP who have voted out, foul mouthed used Noirin.
Mumbling, devious, prize for the best actor Fred.
Back stabbing Beatch.
Foul crude and lewd Marcus.
I hope next it will be the sly scheming mumbling munter Simplvash.