Baz posted:
I thought he made quite a salient point on qt though ..
I didn't agree with it, he is white and privilege....with a voice like his he wouldn't have got a slot on Jeremy Vine if he didn't come from a famous acting dynasty. I wasn't actually talking about QT, he's pure ignorance of WW! and from what I have read about him since, he's gone from being a mediocre actor to prat
Saint posted:machel posted:Janet street porter
richard branson
micheal macintyre
What do people think of Michael McIntyre??
When he started he was more 'alternative' but as he's become this huge star celebrity for the BBC his comedy has become safe, smug and grating. That is what you'd expect for someone occupying that Saturday night family light entertainment slot. He comes over as really full of himself. I don't hate him and can think of a lot of worse, it's just I wouldn't choose to watch his shtick. Ant and Dec annoy me more.
Can I nominate 'scientist' Nick Gray of gtech vacuums? I don't have an axe to grind against his firm or his vacuum cleaners but him and his adverts! 
Carnelian posted:Can I nominate 'scientist' Nick Gray of gtech vacuums? I don't have an axe to grind against his firm or his vacuum cleaners but him and his adverts!
oh yeah
Have a vacuum that's basically a little electric motor = ÂĢ300
Dyson is quite smug and his ball hoover is monstrous
Dame_Ann_Average posted:Baz posted:
I didn't agree with it, he is white and privilege....with a voice like his he wouldn't have got a slot on Jeremy Vine if he didn't come from a famous acting dynasty. I wasn't actually talking about QT, he's pure ignorance of WW! and from what I have read about him since, he's gone from being a mediocre actor to prat
yep, in his ignorance, he sneered at a film with a Sikh as a British WWI combatant as 'woke politically correct' when thousands of Sikhs fought for and laid down their lives for the British cause in WWI. He owes the Sikh community a contrite apology and so does the legions of ignorant arseholes who nod their heads in agreement with his racist ignorance.
If he can't do that, he is a racist!
Roxan posted:How about Jonathon Ross?
Oh thought he was on the list?
Roxan posted:In my opinion, if you are not part of the minority (or majority in the case of women), then it is best not to comment on racism, sexism, disabledism etc etc... in public.
totally agree Roxan
1 Piers Morgan
2 Ian Duncan Smith
3 Donald Trump
4 Susanna Reid
5 Ulrika Jonson
6 Anthea Turner
7 Penny Smith
8 Gordon Ramsay
9 Greg Wallace
10 Richard + Judy
11 Jacob Rees-Mogg
12 Ester McVey
13 Paul Hollywood
14 Cheryl Twaddle
15 Gemma Collins
16 Scarlett Moffatt
17 Amanda Holden
18 Trinnie and Suzanne
19 Anna Ryder Richardson
20 Brendan Cole
21 Claudia Winkleman
22 Chris Packham
23 Ed Balls
24 Roxan Pallet
25 Chris Evans
26 Gaby Roslin
27 Gillian Burke
28 Gillian McKeith
29 Katy Hopkins
30 Lawrence Llewellyn Bowen
31 Dominic Littlewood
32 David van Day
33 Charlotte Crosby
34 Jeremy Kyle
35 Jedward
36 Russel Brand
37 Natasha Kaplinski
38 Justin lee Collins
39 Vanessa Feltz
40 James Corden
41 Kerry Katona
42 Colleen Nolan
43 Katy Price
44 Fiona Phillips
45 Jimmy Carr
46 Jonathon Ross
47 TOWIE
48 Egg-heads bloke
49 Dominic Littlewood
50 Stephen Mulhern
51 Keith Lemon/Leigh Francis
52 Ann Widdicombe
53 Geordie Shore idiots
54 Katie Price
55 Denise Welch
56 Frankie Cocozza
57 Frankie/Kelly Malone
58 Rachel Riley
59 Janet Street Porter
60 Richard Branson
61 Lawrence Fox
62 Paddy McGuiness (why is he famous)
63 Jeremy Clarkson
64 Holly Willoughby
65 James Dyson
66 Paul Gray (Gtech)
67 Paul Ross
Three more - have I missed any suggestions?
Moonie posted:David Icke?
Wow - nice one
Johnathon King
Baz posted:Saint posted:Johnathon King
Isnât he dead
Still alive, I don't think a child abuser can be described as 'irritating', it's not like you might think, "Oh that posh spice is well up herself with her stupid pouts and ridiculous poses she thinks she can copyright, and that Jonathan King, with his pedophilia, really irritates me as well!"
Following on can I nominate all the Spice Girls, except for Sporty, who seems like a genuine normal affable human being? The others have been irritating me for 23 years!
Carnelian posted:Baz posted:Saint posted:Johnathon King
Isnât he dead
Still alive, I don't think a child abuser can be described as 'irritating', it's not like you might think, "Oh that posh spice is well up herself with her stupid pouts and ridiculous poses she thinks she can copyright, and that Jonathan King, with his pedophilia, really irritates me as well!"
Jonathan King was widely considered to be deeply irritating (and indeed he rather played on his reputation as a bit of a "Marmite" figure) long before his criminal activities became public knowledge, and I assume that's where the reference comes from.
That said, I fully understand and agree with your point: no matter how 'irritating' I might consider "Johnny Reggae" (and it's often cited as a classic example of "cultural appropriation"), it simply isn't comparable to a conviction for child sexual abuse...
Eugene's Lair posted:Carnelian posted:Baz posted:Saint posted:Johnathon King
Isnât he dead
Still alive, I don't think a child abuser can be described as 'irritating', it's not like you might think, "Oh that posh spice is well up herself with her stupid pouts and ridiculous poses she thinks she can copyright, and that Jonathan King, with his pedophilia, really irritates me as well!"
Jonathan King was widely considered to be deeply irritating (and indeed he rather played on his reputation as a bit of a "Marmite" figure) long before his criminal activities became public knowledge, and I assume that's where the reference comes from.
That said, I fully understand and agree with your point: no matter how 'irritating' I might consider "Johnny Reggae" (and it's often cited as a classic example of "cultural appropriation"), it simply isn't comparable to a conviction for child sexual abuse...
Was gonna say exactly this ^^^
The title does say 'horrors' however - should Rolf Harris go on there and Fred Talbot? Or maybe none of them??
Saint posted:Eugene's Lair posted:Carnelian posted:Baz posted:Saint posted:Johnathon King
Isnât he dead
Still alive, I don't think a child abuser can be described as 'irritating', it's not like you might think, "Oh that posh spice is well up herself with her stupid pouts and ridiculous poses she thinks she can copyright, and that Jonathan King, with his pedophilia, really irritates me as well!"
Jonathan King was widely considered to be deeply irritating (and indeed he rather played on his reputation as a bit of a "Marmite" figure) long before his criminal activities became public knowledge, and I assume that's where the reference comes from.
That said, I fully understand and agree with your point: no matter how 'irritating' I might consider "Johnny Reggae" (and it's often cited as a classic example of "cultural appropriation"), it simply isn't comparable to a conviction for child sexual abuse...
Was gonna say exactly this ^^^
The title does say 'horrors' however - should Rolf Harris go on there and Fred Talbot? Or maybe none of them??
I agree it's a bit harsh to put someone like Anthea Turner in with a convicted underage sex abuser. I know many find her very irritating and I can see that but I actually quite like Anthea Turner - I think she can laugh at herself. Regardless of how much she might annoy you, she's not a convicted paedophile, is she?
Eugene's Lair posted:Carnelian posted:Baz posted:Saint posted:Johnathon King
Isnât he dead
Still alive, I don't think a child abuser can be described as 'irritating', it's not like you might think, "Oh that posh spice is well up herself with her stupid pouts and ridiculous poses she thinks she can copyright, and that Jonathan King, with his pedophilia, really irritates me as well!"
Jonathan King was widely considered to be deeply irritating (and indeed he rather played on his reputation as a bit of a "Marmite" figure) long before his criminal activities became public knowledge, and I assume that's where the reference comes from.
That said, I fully understand and agree with your point: no matter how 'irritating' I might consider "Johnny Reggae" (and it's often cited as a classic example of "cultural appropriation"), it simply isn't comparable to a conviction for child sexual abuse...
I think cultural appropriation is a tricky one. "Jonny Reggae" is just a cash-in novelty record at a time when reggae was very popular - and just that. The 2 Tone era bands were accused of cultural appropriation - Madness - all white but almost being a Prince Buster tribute act in their early days, yet the overall message of that genre was multicultural togetherness. Were the early black Ragtime and Jazz musicians 'appropriating' white European musical forms and white European instruments to produce their music? Yes, they were, but so what!
Carnelian posted:Eugene's Lair posted:Carnelian posted:Baz posted:Saint posted:Johnathon King
Isnât he dead
Still alive, I don't think a child abuser can be described as 'irritating', it's not like you might think, "Oh that posh spice is well up herself with her stupid pouts and ridiculous poses she thinks she can copyright, and that Jonathan King, with his pedophilia, really irritates me as well!"
Jonathan King was widely considered to be deeply irritating (and indeed he rather played on his reputation as a bit of a "Marmite" figure) long before his criminal activities became public knowledge, and I assume that's where the reference comes from.
That said, I fully understand and agree with your point: no matter how 'irritating' I might consider "Johnny Reggae" (and it's often cited as a classic example of "cultural appropriation"), it simply isn't comparable to a conviction for child sexual abuse...
I think cultural appropriation is a tricky one. "Jonny Reggae" is just a cash-in novelty record at a time when reggae was very popular - and just that. The 2 Tone era bands were accused of cultural appropriation - Madness - all white but almost being a Prince Buster tribute act in their early days, yet the overall message of that genre was multicultural togetherness. Were the early black Ragtime and Jazz musicians 'appropriating' white European musical forms and white European instruments to produce their music? Yes, they were, but so what!
That's rather the point though...
I feel I'm dragging this thread seriously off-topic, so I don't want to go into this in great depth, but the criticism of "Johnny Reggae" centres around just that: it was a cheap cash-in by a white bloke who had no real knowledge, understanding or interest in the musical culture he was borrowing from.
You mention Madness as an example: the band I usually hear as a comparison is The Specials (or, more specifically, just Jerry Dammers), but the point remains the same. Yes; the 2 Tone bands attracted criticism at the time, but they genuinely respected and cared for the music, as well as the culture it represented. As you say, Madness started out - pretty much by their own admission - as virtually a Prince Buster tribute act, but that was "tribute" in the proper, respectful, sense.
Compared with Jonathan King, we're talking chalk and cheese...
Eugene's Lair posted:Carnelian posted:Eugene's Lair posted:Carnelian posted:Baz posted:Saint posted:Johnathon King
Isnât he dead
Still alive, I don't think a child abuser can be described as 'irritating', it's not like you might think, "Oh that posh spice is well up herself with her stupid pouts and ridiculous poses she thinks she can copyright, and that Jonathan King, with his pedophilia, really irritates me as well!"
Jonathan King was widely considered to be deeply irritating (and indeed he rather played on his reputation as a bit of a "Marmite" figure) long before his criminal activities became public knowledge, and I assume that's where the reference comes from.
That said, I fully understand and agree with your point: no matter how 'irritating' I might consider "Johnny Reggae" (and it's often cited as a classic example of "cultural appropriation"), it simply isn't comparable to a conviction for child sexual abuse...
I think cultural appropriation is a tricky one. "Jonny Reggae" is just a cash-in novelty record at a time when reggae was very popular - and just that. The 2 Tone era bands were accused of cultural appropriation - Madness - all white but almost being a Prince Buster tribute act in their early days, yet the overall message of that genre was multicultural togetherness. Were the early black Ragtime and Jazz musicians 'appropriating' white European musical forms and white European instruments to produce their music? Yes, they were, but so what!
That's rather the point though...
I feel I'm dragging this thread seriously off-topic, so I don't want to go into this in great depth, but the criticism of "Johnny Reggae" centres around just that: it was a cheap cash-in by a white bloke who had no real knowledge, understanding or interest in the musical culture he was borrowing from.
You mention Madness as an example: the band I usually hear as a comparison is The Specials (or, more specifically, just Jerry Dammers), but the point remains the same. Yes; the 2 Tone bands attracted criticism at the time, but they genuinely respected and cared for the music, as well as the culture it represented. As you say, Madness started out - pretty much by their own admission - as virtually a Prince Buster tribute act, but that was "tribute" in the proper, respectful, sense.
Compared with Jonathan King, we're talking chalk and cheese...
I can't disagree with any of this Eugene's Lair, absolutely spot on and very well said!
Johnny Reggae, a naff, tacky cheap cash-in absolutely! Still, if that was his only crime, he would be irritating, but being a convicted peadophile is in a different league!
As Jonathon King played on his dislikable panto villain, marmite character ... he can go on the list.
Rolf Harris and Fred the weatherman can't 
1 Piers Morgan
2 Ian Duncan Smith
3 Donald Trump
4 Susanna Reid
5 Ulrika Jonson
6 Anthea Turner
7 Penny Smith
8 Gordon Ramsay
9 Greg Wallace
10 Richard + Judy
11 Jacob Rees-Mogg
12 Ester McVey
13 Paul Hollywood
14 Cheryl Twaddle
15 Gemma Collins
16 Scarlett Moffatt
17 Amanda Holden
18 Trinnie and Suzanne
19 Anna Ryder Richardson
20 Brendan Cole
21 Claudia Winkleman
22 Chris Packham
23 Ed Balls
24 Roxan Pallet
25 Chris Evans
26 Gaby Roslin
27 Gillian Burke
28 Gillian McKeith
29 Katy Hopkins
30 Lawrence Llewellyn Bowen
31 Dominic Littlewood
32 David van Day
33 Charlotte Crosby
34 Jeremy Kyle
35 Jedward
36 Russel Brand
37 Natasha Kaplinski
38 Justin lee Collins
39 Vanessa Feltz
40 James Corden
41 Kerry Katona
42 Colleen Nolan
43 Katy Price
44 Fiona Phillips
45 Jimmy Carr
46 Jonathon Ross
47 TOWIE
48 Egg-heads bloke
49 Dominic Littlewood
50 Stephen Mulhern
51 Keith Lemon/Leigh Francis
52 Ann Widdicombe
53 Geordie Shore idiots
54 Katie Price
55 Denise Welch
56 Frankie Cocozza
57 Frankie/Kelly Malone
58 Rachel Riley
59 Janet Street Porter
60 Richard Branson
61 Lawrence Fox
62 Paddy McGuiness (why is he famous)
63 Jeremy Clarkson
64 Holly Willoughby
65 James Dyson
66 Paul Gray (Gtech)
67 Paul Ross
68 David Icke
69 Jonathon King
. . . and one more please
machel posted:Need 2 more, Dominic is on there twice!
Well spotted
Not sure about Jane - anyone else dislike her?
I personally don't tbh
How about Big Brother contestants as an overall vote
Or one in particular?
Maxwell was a prize tool
Ok we'll have -
Big Brother ... choose your own
Royal Family ... will have to be represented by the Duke of Edinburgh who seems to revel in his rudeness and shockingly poor PC
1 Piers Morgan
2 Ian Duncan Smith
3 Donald Trump
4 Susanna Reid
5 Ulrika Jonson
6 Anthea Turner
7 Penny Smith
8 Gordon Ramsay
9 Greg Wallace
10 Richard + Judy
11 Jacob Rees-Mogg
12 Ester McVey
13 Paul Hollywood
14 Cheryl Twaddle
15 Gemma Collins
16 Scarlett Moffatt
17 Amanda Holden
18 Trinnie and Suzanne
19 Anna Ryder Richardson
20 Brendan Cole
21 Claudia Winkleman
22 Chris Packham
23 Ed Balls
24 Roxan Pallet
25 Chris Evans
26 Gaby Roslin
27 Gillian Burke
28 Gillian McKeith
29 Katy Hopkins
30 Lawrence Llewellyn Bowen
31 Dominic Littlewood
32 David van Day
33 Charlotte Crosby
34 Jeremy Kyle
35 Jedward
36 Russel Brand
37 Natasha Kaplinski
38 Justin lee Collins
39 Vanessa Feltz
40 James Corden
41 Kerry Katona
42 Colleen Nolan
43 Katy Price
44 Fiona Phillips
45 Jimmy Carr
46 Jonathon Ross
47 TOWIE
48 Egg-heads bloke
49 Big Brother - choose your preferred idiot
50 Stephen Mulhern
51 Keith Lemon/Leigh Francis
52 Ann Widdicombe
53 Geordie Shore idiots
54 Katie Price
55 Denise Welch
56 Frankie Cocozza
57 Frankie/Kelly Malone
58 Rachel Riley
59 Janet Street Porter
60 Richard Branson
61 Lawrence Fox
62 Paddy McGuiness (why is he famous)
63 Jeremy Clarkson
64 Holly Willoughby
65 James Dyson
66 Paul Gray (Gtech)
67 Paul Ross
68 David Icke
69 Jonathon King
70 Duke of Edinburgh
. . . and more or less there we have it
Comments please
You need to add another one..... Dominic Cummings, idiot in charge
We could easily hit 100 i think
Roxan posted:Saint posted:Ok we'll have -
Big Brother ... choose your own
Royal Family ... will have to be represented by the Duke of Edinburgh who seems to revel in his rudeness and shockingly poor PC
Surely Prince Andrew who is a boorish entitled moron? Whether you like him or not, Prince Philip served the monarchy for decades..Prince Andrew seems to have been milking his privilege in any way he can all his so called service. And Iâm not even including his âusefulâ connections to convicted felons...
OK - I see your point
