Things I've learned

Jeremy Corbyn reminds me of a senior school inspector

Jo Swinson reminds me of a sixth form prefect

Boris Johnson reminds me of Donald Trump's disabled brother.

What i've really learned is that Politician's seem a nasty breed.

They revel in each other's misfortune.

They will argue all day that every other candidate is 'wrong' - except themselves.

They care more for their party than for the country.

They only appeal to the people when there's an Election, otherwise they're too busy to listen.

If they can stab their own in the back to get ahead - they will.

What i've really learned is that Politician's seem a nasty breed.

They revel in each other's misfortune.

They will argue all day that every other candidate is 'wrong' - except themselves.

They care more for their party than for the country.

They only appeal to the people when there's an Election, otherwise they're too busy to listen.

If they can stab their own in the back to get ahead - they will.

Tend to agree, but I suppose really they're just like normal people except there are many more opportunities to fight and gain power.   There are some really decent politicians but as a group, they're not particularly pleasant.

Saint posted:

Things I've learned

 

Jeremy Corbyn reminds me of a senior school inspector

 

Jo Swinson reminds me of a sixth form prefect

 

Boris Johnson reminds me of Donald Trump's disabled brother.

 

What i've really learned is that Politician's seem a nasty breed.

They revel in each other's misfortune.

They will argue all day that every other candidate is 'wrong' - except themselves.

They care more for their party than for the country.

They only appeal to the people when there's an Election, otherwise they're too busy to listen.

If they can stab their own in the back to get ahead - they will.

That sums it up nicely 

Carnelian posted:

What i've really learned is that Politician's seem a nasty breed.

They revel in each other's misfortune.

They will argue all day that every other candidate is 'wrong' - except themselves.

They care more for their party than for the country.

They only appeal to the people when there's an Election, otherwise they're too busy to listen.

If they can stab their own in the back to get ahead - they will.

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Tend to agree, but I suppose really they're just like normal people except there are many more opportunities to fight and gain power.   There are some really decent politicians but as a group, they're not particularly pleasant.

I agree with that too Carnelian 

What i've really learned is that things tend to go round in circles, ebb and flow.

After Brexit is done and the dust settles and the economy settles into a new rhythm ...

Labour will regroup with a "we listened and learned" - "we made the necessary changes without disregarding our core values" - and a new shiny leadership.

People will fall out of favour with Bumbling Boris as he fails to deliver too many times.

Within 5 years we'll see a swing 'back' to Labour and resurgence of the 'middle-left' as they regain all the lost seats lost in the 2019 debacle.

And so we'll be back to the normal two horse race with LibDems snapping at their heels.

Oh and Scotland will vote again with a huge swing against Little Jimmy Krankie cos they don't want another referendum.

Maybe  

Saint posted:

Maybe  

Saint posted:

What i've really learned is that things tend to go round in circles, ebb and flow.

 

After Brexit is done and the dust settles and the economy settles into a new rhythm ...

Labour will regroup with a "we listened and learned" - "we made the necessary changes without disregarding our core values" - and a new shiny leadership.

People will fall out of favour with Bumbling Boris as he fails to deliver too many times.

Within 5 years we'll see a swing 'back' to Labour and resurgence of the 'middle-left' as they regain all the lost seats lost in the 2019 debacle.

 

And so we'll be back to the normal two horse race with LibDems snapping at their heels.

Oh and Scotland will vote again with a huge swing against Little Jimmy Krankie cos they don't want another referendum.

 I am praying you are right on that one 

Yogi19 posted:

Saint posted:

What i've really learned is that things tend to go round in circles, ebb and flow.

 

After Brexit is done and the dust settles and the economy settles into a new rhythm ...

Labour will regroup with a "we listened and learned" - "we made the necessary changes without disregarding our core values" - and a new shiny leadership.

People will fall out of favour with Bumbling Boris as he fails to deliver too many times.

Within 5 years we'll see a swing 'back' to Labour and resurgence of the 'middle-left' as they regain all the lost seats lost in the 2019 debacle.

 

And so we'll be back to the normal two horse race with LibDems snapping at their heels.

Oh and Scotland will vote again with a huge swing against Little Jimmy Krankie cos they don't want another referendum.

 I am praying you are right on that one 

Baz posted:

Yogi19 posted:

Saint posted:

What i've really learned is that things tend to go round in circles, ebb and flow.

 

After Brexit is done and the dust settles and the economy settles into a new rhythm ...

Labour will regroup with a "we listened and learned" - "we made the necessary changes without disregarding our core values" - and a new shiny leadership.

People will fall out of favour with Bumbling Boris as he fails to deliver too many times.

Within 5 years we'll see a swing 'back' to Labour and resurgence of the 'middle-left' as they regain all the lost seats lost in the 2019 debacle.

 

And so we'll be back to the normal two horse race with LibDems snapping at their heels.

Oh and Scotland will vote again with a huge swing against Little Jimmy Krankie cos they don't want another referendum.

 I am praying you are right on that one 

This nation is seriously fecked.

Wish I saw cycles. Don't be disabled or grow old for starters.

There's no opposition. And don't wing it the next time when I'm dead Labour.

I could work a plan out overnight and execute it. You've got years.

Let the infighting begin.

Yogi19 posted:

Saint posted:

What i've really learned is that things tend to go round in circles, ebb and flow.

 

After Brexit is done and the dust settles and the economy settles into a new rhythm ...

Labour will regroup with a "we listened and learned" - "we made the necessary changes without disregarding our core values" - and a new shiny leadership.

People will fall out of favour with Bumbling Boris as he fails to deliver too many times.

Within 5 years we'll see a swing 'back' to Labour and resurgence of the 'middle-left' as they regain all the lost seats lost in the 2019 debacle.

 

And so we'll be back to the normal two horse race with LibDems snapping at their heels.

Oh and Scotland will vote again with a huge swing against Little Jimmy Krankie cos they don't want another referendum.

 I am praying you are right on that one 

Um.......what are we voting in, to say we don't want another referendum?

Voting "No" in another independence ref to say "we never wanted another referendum - we already voted"

Saint posted:

Voting "No" in another independence ref to say "we never wanted another referendum - we already voted"

If there is another vote in Scotland for independence, that would mean we are not too far off another UK wide vote to re-enter the EU. 

This pretty much sums up politic today.

Vote for lt. col. Kojak Slaphead III

Enthusiastic Contrafibularities posted:

Saint posted:

Voting "No" in another independence ref to say "we never wanted another referendum - we already voted"

If there is another vote in Scotland for independence, that would mean we are not too far off another UK wide vote to re-enter the EU. 

😱😱😱😱😱

Saint posted:

Voting "No" in another independence ref to say "we never wanted another referendum - we already voted"

The situation's the same with the EU referendum. Some are saying we need a new reterendum to check on the current nationwide feeling, while others are saying NO, we've voted out. It's effectively the other way round with the Scottish referendum, but the basic principle is the same!

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Saint posted:

What i've really learned is that things tend to go round in circles, ebb and flow.

 

After Brexit is done and the dust settles and the economy settles into a new rhythm ...

Labour will regroup with a "we listened and learned" - "we made the necessary changes without disregarding our core values" - and a new shiny leadership.

People will fall out of favour with Bumbling Boris as he fails to deliver too many times.

Within 5 years we'll see a swing 'back' to Labour and resurgence of the 'middle-left' as they regain all the lost seats lost in the 2019 debacle.

 

And so we'll be back to the normal two horse race with LibDems snapping at their heels.

Oh and Scotland will vote again with a huge swing against Little Jimmy Krankie cos they don't want another referendum.

I don't think so, the 'middle left' has to lick the boots of Murdoch and the Daily Mail, like Blair did.  

The problem with Blair was he had to tell Sun and Mail readers that we could have all the good things without raising taxes.  

So we had PFI deals where the private sector ran rings around the government and rinsed the taxpayer.  Banking deregulation, mortgage deregulation, a Labour government that didn't build any homes because it was shit scared it would stop 'free money' from property escalation for the voters Blair needed to keep power and rightist global media moguls Blair needed to keep onside.  That culminated in Blair being owned by Murdoch and George W Bush.

Blair had a majority of hundreds but was timider than the Tories were with a majority of half a dozen.  The reason being the REAL power lies within the neoliberal/neocon global conservative/US Republican elite. 

Blair was their good pet, an aberration to the norm.  The left of centre cannot gain power.  They will never be allowed to gain power.