Baz posted:

Carnelian posted:

Baz posted:

velvet donkey posted:

Carnelian posted:

I'm not being funny Velvet, if you support WTO Brexit you are basically equal to a terrorist.  You are ok to see critically ill people not have their vital medicines, or alternatively, by claiming it is 'project fear' you are blasé enough to take a punt on it not happening while not being ethically responsible  enough to be morally cautious.

 

WTO Brexiters are worse than terrorists.  Terrorists HATE the UK and seek to murder our people.  WTO Brexiters profess to love the UK but don't care if the  consequences of their aim indirectly kill our people.  

I've never said that.

 

I know it's full scale disaster.

Carnelian , once again you totally devalue your argument with OTT name calling ...ie on this occasion equating brexiteers with terrorists  .

Well sometimes you have to shove things in people's faces to make them 'get it'

 

So if you're a hard line Brexiter and your opponents argue, with reasonable justification, that medicines won't get through, what do you do?

 

Say it's all 'remoaners' scaremongering?  Well maybe it is!  But if you are a decent person, isn't it you duty to check that claim out find a solid rebuke?  What typically happens is Brexiters just shout "project fear".  Well this is real people's lives, that can't be treated with such knee-jerk dismissal.  

 

Brexiters ARE prepared to sacrifice the potential fatalities for their dogma.  I will NEVER apologies for their casual indifference to the lives of British people.  They ARE no different to terrorists.  Lives are subservient to their objectives.

 

Please explain why I am wrong?

 

Baz, it is YOU who should be apologising to me for rubbishing my valid argument.

 

I don’t need to apologise to you Carnelian because ( whether I agree with it or not ) I didn’t rubbish it . You are obviously more than capable of putting together a very cogent political argument , but then you totally infantilise it by breathtakingly sweeping generalisations , and resorting to name calling . THAT was my point 

If I've been rude and obnoxious (which I probably have) then I do apologise.  If my opinions have offended, then I don't care.  My opinions are mine and I won't compromise.  This government, their disaster capitalist funders and the plans of the Brexit elite anger me.

Carnelian posted:

Baz posted:

Carnelian posted:

Baz posted:

velvet donkey posted:

Carnelian posted:

I'm not being funny Velvet, if you support WTO Brexit you are basically equal to a terrorist.  You are ok to see critically ill people not have their vital medicines, or alternatively, by claiming it is 'project fear' you are blasé enough to take a punt on it not happening while not being ethically responsible  enough to be morally cautious.

 

WTO Brexiters are worse than terrorists.  Terrorists HATE the UK and seek to murder our people.  WTO Brexiters profess to love the UK but don't care if the  consequences of their aim indirectly kill our people.  

I've never said that.

 

I know it's full scale disaster.

Carnelian , once again you totally devalue your argument with OTT name calling ...ie on this occasion equating brexiteers with terrorists  .

Well sometimes you have to shove things in people's faces to make them 'get it'

 

So if you're a hard line Brexiter and your opponents argue, with reasonable justification, that medicines won't get through, what do you do?

 

Say it's all 'remoaners' scaremongering?  Well maybe it is!  But if you are a decent person, isn't it you duty to check that claim out find a solid rebuke?  What typically happens is Brexiters just shout "project fear".  Well this is real people's lives, that can't be treated with such knee-jerk dismissal.  

 

Brexiters ARE prepared to sacrifice the potential fatalities for their dogma.  I will NEVER apologies for their casual indifference to the lives of British people.  They ARE no different to terrorists.  Lives are subservient to their objectives.

 

Please explain why I am wrong?

 

Baz, it is YOU who should be apologising to me for rubbishing my valid argument.

 

I don’t need to apologise to you Carnelian because ( whether I agree with it or not ) I didn’t rubbish it . You are obviously more than capable of putting together a very cogent political argument , but then you totally infantilise it by breathtakingly sweeping generalisations , and resorting to name calling . THAT was my point 

If I've been rude and obnoxious (which I probably have) then I do apologise.  If my opinions have offended, then I don't care.  My opinions are mine and I won't compromise.  This government, their disaster capitalist funders and the plans of the Brexit elite anger me.

I don’t think anyone expects you to compromise or sell out your principles Carnelian ...I certainly don’t ....but then it’s only fair that you accept that others have different opinions , which are equally valid ...or at least as strongly held 

Baz posted:

Carnelian posted:

Baz posted:

Carnelian posted:

Baz posted:

velvet donkey posted:

Carnelian posted:

I'm not being funny Velvet, if you support WTO Brexit you are basically equal to a terrorist.  You are ok to see critically ill people not have their vital medicines, or alternatively, by claiming it is 'project fear' you are blasé enough to take a punt on it not happening while not being ethically responsible  enough to be morally cautious.

 

WTO Brexiters are worse than terrorists.  Terrorists HATE the UK and seek to murder our people.  WTO Brexiters profess to love the UK but don't care if the  consequences of their aim indirectly kill our people.  

I've never said that.

 

I know it's full scale disaster.

Carnelian , once again you totally devalue your argument with OTT name calling ...ie on this occasion equating brexiteers with terrorists  .

Well sometimes you have to shove things in people's faces to make them 'get it'

 

So if you're a hard line Brexiter and your opponents argue, with reasonable justification, that medicines won't get through, what do you do?

 

Say it's all 'remoaners' scaremongering?  Well maybe it is!  But if you are a decent person, isn't it you duty to check that claim out find a solid rebuke?  What typically happens is Brexiters just shout "project fear".  Well this is real people's lives, that can't be treated with such knee-jerk dismissal.  

 

Brexiters ARE prepared to sacrifice the potential fatalities for their dogma.  I will NEVER apologies for their casual indifference to the lives of British people.  They ARE no different to terrorists.  Lives are subservient to their objectives.

 

Please explain why I am wrong?

 

Baz, it is YOU who should be apologising to me for rubbishing my valid argument.

 

I don’t need to apologise to you Carnelian because ( whether I agree with it or not ) I didn’t rubbish it . You are obviously more than capable of putting together a very cogent political argument , but then you totally infantilise it by breathtakingly sweeping generalisations , and resorting to name calling . THAT was my point 

If I've been rude and obnoxious (which I probably have) then I do apologise.  If my opinions have offended, then I don't care.  My opinions are mine and I won't compromise.  This government, their disaster capitalist funders and the plans of the Brexit elite anger me.

I don’t think anyone expects you to compromise or sell out your principles Carnelian ...I certainly don’t ....but then it’s only fair that you accept that others have different opinions , which are equally valid ...or at least as strongly held 

yep, of course I accept people have different opinions.  Equally valid?  Well, sort of, in their own minds - equal or superior to my views.  Even so, my opinions won't mean vulnerable people don't get their vital medicines nor will they facilitate disaster capitalism which is what Brexit is all about, a Trojan Horse for disaster capitalist hedge fund managers to **** over this country!