That £12m Manhattan penthouse the Govt. recently bought for trade talks is an interesting one. Kinda rules out a Customs Union - which I don't like cos we'll have no say.
Points in only one direction.
Or it's a nice grace and favour for someone.
Moonie posted:Carnelian posted:Moonie posted:Carnelian posted:Hopefully they'll be a General Election soon.
We have a choice between a social democrat future, with homes for our young people, fair salaries and a more decent society or a country run by a ****ing deranged bitch, or even worse, a piece of shit venal, corrupt, compulsive liar clown c**t Bozo or a right wing backstabbing shit, almost Nazi Gove. Both utterly untrustworthy and utterly venal. Both should have been out of politics and would be if the Tory Party wasn't morally bankrupt, institutionally racist and extreme right.
Should we include the anti-Semitism that appears to have reared it’s head in the Labour Party?
Please, note I said “appears to be” as I know there is an ongoing investigation within the Labour Party.
Well it has, even though the Tory Party is more antisemite and more racist than the Labour Party. Thanks to mainstream media BS we have a mostly racist party (the Tories) grandstanding over racism and accusing Labour over antisemitism.
Moonie, you are a mug, easily played by mainstream Tory media. That's sad!
Check out this report and see how you've been played by Tory media.
https://www.channel4.com/news/...sm-political-parties
So, it’s okay to be an anti-Semite and a racist as long as the other party is more so than you are?
As for me being a mug, you are entitled to your opinion, even though it is wrong
I await your next sarcastic witticism of me. Though it is like water off a ducks back
I look forward to your next diatribe with great interest
No it's not 'ok' but it certainly isn't 'ok' to be a supporter of a more antisemite party and throw stones at the less antisemite party. That makes you a hypocrite AND an antisemite.
I'm not wrong, you are a mug and you should be embarrassed. If being a hypocrite is water of a ducks back then regardless, you are still a hypocrite and an antisemite. Carry on being an antisemite hypocrite and a phoney. You won't be the only one!
IF YOU PREFER A MORE ANTISEMITE PARTY TO A LESS ANTISEMITE PARTY YOU ARE AN ANTISEMITE! Simple as that!
Did you even bother to read that article? Bet you couldn't be arsed, because you are a bigot and a hater of Jews.
Moonie has already said in this thread that he has voted Labour all his life Carnelian. He just doesn't like the current leadership. Surely that's allowed like you don't like May & Co.
Ok Carnelian you’ve gone way too far this time 
Apart from being totally wrong , you’re also totally out of order ! Debating politics is fine , but personal attacks on FMs like the post above is beyond the pale .....and I think you’ll find is against Gaga rules ...so I suggest you take a deep breath and delete it !
I’ve reported the post, Baz. I’m sick of Carnelian’s vile rants and personal attacks on FMs, simply because they don’t agree with his political views.
Brexit should have been cross party from the start. Not the Tories baby.
Carnelian posted:Moonie posted:Carnelian posted:Moonie posted:Carnelian posted:Hopefully they'll be a General Election soon.
We have a choice between a social democrat future, with homes for our young people, fair salaries and a more decent society or a country run by a ****ing deranged bitch, or even worse, a piece of shit venal, corrupt, compulsive liar clown c**t Bozo or a right wing backstabbing shit, almost Nazi Gove. Both utterly untrustworthy and utterly venal. Both should have been out of politics and would be if the Tory Party wasn't morally bankrupt, institutionally racist and extreme right.
Should we include the anti-Semitism that appears to have reared it’s head in the Labour Party?
Please, note I said “appears to be” as I know there is an ongoing investigation within the Labour Party.
Well it has, even though the Tory Party is more antisemite and more racist than the Labour Party. Thanks to mainstream media BS we have a mostly racist party (the Tories) grandstanding over racism and accusing Labour over antisemitism.
Moonie, you are a mug, easily played by mainstream Tory media. That's sad!
Check out this report and see how you've been played by Tory media.
https://www.channel4.com/news/...sm-political-parties
So, it’s okay to be an anti-Semite and a racist as long as the other party is more so than you are?
As for me being a mug, you are entitled to your opinion, even though it is wrong
I await your next sarcastic witticism of me. Though it is like water off a ducks back
I look forward to your next diatribe with great interest
No it's not 'ok' but it certainly isn't 'ok' to be a supporter of a more antisemite party and throw stones at the less antisemite party. That makes you a hypocrite AND an antisemite.
I'm not wrong, you are a mug and you should be embarrassed. If being a hypocrite is water of a ducks back then regardless, you are still a hypocrite and an antisemite. Carry on being an antisemite hypocrite and a phoney. You won't be the only one!
IF YOU PREFER A MORE ANTISEMITE PARTY TO A LESS ANTISEMITE PARTY YOU ARE AN ANTISEMITE! Simple as that!
Did you even bother to read that article? Bet you couldn't be arsed, because you are a bigot and a hater of Jews.
🤔 as per usual you resort to character assassination when you can’t win someone over without resorting to your usual acidic rhetoric 
So according to what you have posted above that’s makes you as anti Semitic as me if you are prepared to support a party less anti Semitic than you think I do?
If that is the case then that also makes you as much as hypocritical as you say I am.
if I am a bigot, that makes you the same too because by your arguments you are a supporter of the Labour Party which by your own arguments is ‘less anti Semitic’ than the Tory party...
Welcome to the club brother
Carnelian goes about it all wrong Moons. He should take a leaf out of someone else's book on here and put his point across with decorum and humour 
Since we're talking politics here's my skinny latte.
Austerity is a fail and a con. What did Osbourne know about editing? Or who?
Where has all the money gone? That's a big one. The DUP were pocket money.
Debt has never been higher.
London was and still is the money laundering capital of the world.
Mp's have outside interests. Half the ERG are betting against the pound and that's your starter for ten. Rees Mogg doesn't even deserve his place In a PG Wodehouse. Arthur Daley was more convincing.
I'd hate to be one of the 10,000 getting experimented on over Universal Credit. That's where McVey and Duncan Smith come in. Now Amber Rudd. That's heartless.
Brexit was and is a boarding school bun fight. The most serious issue we've faced since WW11.
I think London now has 5 accessible police stations. Willing to be corrected.
20,000 less cops and a justice system and dare I say connected Judges that went down with The Titanic.
Labour are a gamble I admit that but one I'm taking. If they fail you can vote them out in five years or sooner. This Govt. has been an eye opener and total fail and if I were giving them advice I'd get rid of the whole lot and start afresh. Ain't happening though. Time for some redistribution outside cheap labour. Point I'm at.
The economy isn't the be all and end all. It helps though.
The list goes on but friendship is more important than 60 odd grand a year plus expenses.
twickers posted:Brexit should have been cross party from the start. Not the Tories baby.
Completely agree Twickers. The trouble for the Tories over Brexit Started with May's insistence of 'doing it all herself!'
The sooner you get out there the better Fluffs 
Did you read or hear about NHS Tayside.
14 dead because of malpractice. Chemotherapy.
Or Edinburgh Royal with heart surgery. Umpteen dead.
Get out and look back and think thank feck.
In Poole
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twickers posted:The sooner you get out there the better Fluffs
Did you read or hear about NHS Tayside.
14 dead because of malpractice. Chemotherapy.
Or Edinburgh Royal with heart surgery. Umpteen dead.
Get out and look back and think thank feck.
In Poole
e
31st of August can't come soon enough!
twickers posted:Fluffy and I are neighbours by the way. And I like her.
And I like him too.
Sorry Moonie, this was supposed to be a slightly lighthearted thread!
Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing posted:Sorry Moonie, this was supposed to be a slightly lighthearted thread!
EFFT, there is no need to be because you haven’t done anything to be sorry for
My skin is thick so I didn’t take anything of what has been said too heart. People are entitled to their opinions just as I am. As I have said often “water off a ducks back” to me
Eugene's Lair posted:twickers posted:Country's in the sewer although Rory Stewart at 40/1 might ease the pain.
Thanks for the heads-up, twickers!
40/1 next Tory leader; 66/1 next PM.
Liked the cut of Stewart's jib for a while: did you know that as well as previously working as a civil servant in the Foreign Office, he was a member of the Labour Party as a teenager? Maybe - just maybe - he could be the unifying figure the country needs. Let's face it: he couldn't be any worse than the current lot...
I apologise for bumping this thread, and I just want to say straight out that I don't want to reignite any disagreements by doing so: I'm only doing it because I've just caught up with this news item:
Rory Stewart: I'd bring country together as PM
I've just checked with my online turf accountant, and Stewart's odds have more than halved since my previous post: 16/1 next Tory leader; 33/1 next PM! 
THAT WOMAN has not only lost the plot, but I think she has lost a few marbles too! Not only is she acting as if the mess Brexit is in is not down to her, but she wants everybody to agree a deal......her deal......the one that has been rejected 3 times already!
Moonie posted:🤐🤐🤐
My humble apologies again, Moonie...
