Yes, I know this is a prediction, but listening to the rolling news from Liverpool, it sounds like he has more than won.
Yes, I know this is a prediction, but listening to the rolling news from Liverpool, it sounds like he has more than won.
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Announcment due at 11.45,
According to the BBC on their site, this was the turnout shown on the webpage at 10.57
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-politics-37438036
There were 640,500 people eligible to vote which would suggest, with a 77% turnout, that just over 497,000 took part.
Approximate eligible electorate (as at 22 August 2016):
I hope someone is better at maths than me because I work out 77% of ÂĢ640,500 at just over 493,000
I foresee a lot of El Loro worried clients after the above "I hope someone is better at maths than me"
Moonie posted:I foresee a lot of El Loro worried clients after the above "I hope someone is better at maths than me"
I'm worried too
El Loro posted:Moonie posted:I foresee a lot of El Loro worried clients after the above "I hope someone is better at maths than me"
I'm worried too
So the result is of no surpise.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-37461219
According to that article 77.6% of those eligible (640,500) voted.
Mr Corbyn won 313,209 votes, compared with Mr Smith's 193,229.
Mr Corbyn won 61.8% of the total vote.
313,209 + 193,229 = 506,438
313,209 / 506,438 = 61.8% so that works out with the BBC figures.
But as in my previous post, the percentage who voted out of those eligible still doesn't agree with that shown. There is a discrepancy.
Is the result going to make any difference to Labour winning the next election?
Nope, not IMHO. They weren't electable before and they won't be now.
If the MP's don't "fall into line" what happens then? Deselection?
That is going to be a great way for a new leadership to start, but that's by the by, see what happens first
El Loro posted:So the result is of no surpise.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-37461219According to that article 77.6% of those eligible (640,500) voted.
Mr Corbyn won 313,209 votes, compared with Mr Smith's 193,229.
Mr Corbyn won 61.8% of the total vote.
313,209 + 193,229 = 506,438
313,209 / 506,438 = 61.8% so that works out with the BBC figures.But as in my previous post, the percentage who voted out of those eligible still doesn't agree with that shown. There is a discrepancy.
A challenge to the result then El?
Moonie, the margin of victory is such that there would be no effect on the result even if there's a discrepancy, I think a challenge would be a bit pointless
If the number eligible was 652,500 rather than 640,500, the percentage does work but a discrepancy of 12,000 is only a tenth of the winning margin.
El Loro posted:Moonie, the margin of victory is such that there would be no effect on the result even if there's a discrepancy, I think a challenge would be a bit pointless
If the number eligible was 652,500 rather than 640,500, the percentage does work but a discrepancy of 12,000 is only a tenth of the winning margin.
See El, you brain has got back into gear again
But...but...a discrepancy is a discrepancy
Dameee is gonna murder me when she sees what I have written here...Runs to the Hills, good old Iron Maiden. A song for every occasion
I honestly thought Corbyn would win by a tattie field. I wonder how Smith got all those votes? I don't know a single person who voted for him!
Garage Joe posted:I honestly thought Corbyn would win by a tattie field. I wonder how Smith got all those votes? I don't know a single person who voted for him!
Skullduggery?
Moonie posted:Is the result going to make any difference to Labour winning the next election?
Nope, not IMHO. They weren't electable before and they won't be now.
If the MP's don't "fall into line" what happens then? Deselection?
That is going to be a great way for a new leadership to start, but that's by the by, see what happens first
I agree Moonie .....the Conservative party must be rubbing their hands in glee I don't like the guy ...he may have principles , but I think he is more interested in anarchy than parliamentary democracy ....
Moonie posted:El Loro posted:Moonie, the margin of victory is such that there would be no effect on the result even if there's a discrepancy, I think a challenge would be a bit pointless
If the number eligible was 652,500 rather than 640,500, the percentage does work but a discrepancy of 12,000 is only a tenth of the winning margin.
See El, you brain has got back into gear again
But...but...a discrepancy is a discrepancy
Dameee is gonna murder me when she sees what I have written here...Runs to the Hills, good old Iron Maiden. A song for every occasion
* runs with Moonie *
I'm surprised David Milliband didn't chance his arm
Saint posted:I'm surprised David Milliband didn't chance his arm
He's no longer an MP
I'm not a labourite, but I firmly believe he (Jeremy) is their best chance!
velvet donkey posted:Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing posted:I'm not a labourite, but I firmly believe he (Jeremy) is their best chance!
Maybe, but he'll need Frankel and his fairy godmother to get over the line.
Hi Velvet,
No illusions....not going to suggest they'll walk it first time of asking!
El Loro posted:Saint posted:I'm surprised David Milliband didn't chance his arm
He's no longer an MP
Oh I know
Just thought he'd spy an opening after his brother tumbled
Luv's it!
Bossa Nova Baz posted:Moonie posted:Is the result going to make any difference to Labour winning the next election?
Nope, not IMHO. They weren't electable before and they won't be now.
If the MP's don't "fall into line" what happens then? Deselection?
That is going to be a great way for a new leadership to start, but that's by the by, see what happens first
I agree Moonie .....the Conservative party must be rubbing their hands in glee I don't like the guy ...he may have principles , but I think he is more interested in anarchy than parliamentary democracy ....
TBF the Tories are involved in a crisis of hegemony à ce moment la. The Labour Party have just had a democratic vote amongst the membership. The Tories seem to be the party of anarchy; no genuine democratic participation within the decision making process, some go for the government by abstract business ideas, some baffled MPs think they understand Brexit but none of them do - a total shower. One still hopes that Mrs May kicks it all into the long grass and maybe reinstates the Northern Powerhouse.
I'm intrigued......those that say he's unelectable, why do you think that? Not wanting to make a political argument, just intrigued as I say
velvet donkey posted:Because he's too niche.
Momentum et al.
Ordinary people working hard to get the 4 million labour voters back to the polling stations... Absolutely nothing dodgy about Momentum, just ordinary people from all walks of life Velvet. Anyone can go to a meeting, they are not secret and you don't have to join...I have never seen other groups under scrutiny like Momentum...Labour First/Progress, backed by millionaire donors... The 1922 Committee and what was the Monday Club.
Sprout posted:I'm intrigued......those that say he's unelectable, why do you think that? Not wanting to make a political argument, just intrigued as I say
here's your answer Pam...bad language !
tweet of the day...now if only you had done this sooner instead of bad mouthing something off before you knew what it was about!
ErodedPebble88 Retweeted John McTernan
What....!!..** Splutters coffee**
ErodedPebble88 added,
Dame_Ann_Average posted:
tweet of the day...now if only you had done this sooner instead of bad mouthing something off before you knew what it was about!
ErodedPebble88 Retweeted John McTernan
What....!!..** Splutters coffee**
ErodedPebble88 added,
John McTernan @johnmcternanEnjoyed my visit to@PeoplesMomentum's The World Transformed conference. Friendly welcome and illuminating tour of exciting events#TWT2016
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