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Originally Posted by nuts:

Ok, serious now.....I've never been so 'achey' and 'bent double' as I have recently. Is it really age? Do the hormones kick in at age 50 for some reason? (I've just gone 51) but find myself not being able to move at times   Do I need to go see the doc? 

Hormones, bliddy hormones, at 51 do you even need to ask?

Electric blankets and heated car seats are your back's friend...apart from when you're having hot flushes!

FM
Originally Posted by Supercalifragilistic:
Originally Posted by nuts:

Ok, serious now.....I've never been so 'achey' and 'bent double' as I have recently. Is it really age? Do the hormones kick in at age 50 for some reason? (I've just gone 51) but find myself not being able to move at times   Do I need to go see the doc? 

Hormones, bliddy hormones, at 51 do you even need to ask?

Electric blankets and heated car seats are your back's friend...apart from when you're having hot flushes!

That's the thing tho Supe. I don't need heated car seats, I don't drive) but I also don't have hot flushes apart from a BP thing. And I'm fine in bed   

 

Oops *rephrases that*  

FM
Originally Posted by nuts:
Originally Posted by Supercalifragilistic:
Originally Posted by nuts:

Ok, serious now.....I've never been so 'achey' and 'bent double' as I have recently. Is it really age? Do the hormones kick in at age 50 for some reason? (I've just gone 51) but find myself not being able to move at times   Do I need to go see the doc? 

Hormones, bliddy hormones, at 51 do you even need to ask?

Electric blankets and heated car seats are your back's friend...apart from when you're having hot flushes!

That's the thing tho Supe. I don't need heated car seats, I don't drive) but I also don't have hot flushes apart from a BP thing. And I'm fine in bed   

 

Oops *rephrases that*  

Lucky you..The naked on the back door step to cool off from the night sweats in the snow moments can be interesting though..for the neighbours

FM
Originally Posted by Supercalifragilistic:
 

Lucky you..The naked on the back door step to cool off from the night sweats in the snow moments can be interesting though..for the neighbours

See, I don't seem to have that problem. It's the achey thing and not being able to move sometimes when I've been sitting for a while. Is it age? 

FM
Originally Posted by Soozy Woo:

I'm menopausal but hate meddling with nature ..........i'M TRYING REALLY HARD TO GET THROUGH IT WITHOUT MEDICAL INTERVENTION. Sorry for the caps ..................................on the plus side - it saves on the heating bills! 

Did you try the serenity cream Suzy?

For me: hot flushes every 10 mins or so ALL DAY EVERY DAY just got too bloody much

FM
Originally Posted by nuts:
Originally Posted by Supercalifragilistic:
 

Lucky you..The naked on the back door step to cool off from the night sweats in the snow moments can be interesting though..for the neighbours

See, I don't seem to have that problem. It's the achey thing and not being able to move sometimes when I've been sitting for a while. Is it age? 

Reckon....physical activity could be a factor too?

FM
Originally Posted by Supercalifragilistic:
Originally Posted by nuts:
Originally Posted by Supercalifragilistic:
 

Lucky you..The naked on the back door step to cool off from the night sweats in the snow moments can be interesting though..for the neighbours

See, I don't seem to have that problem. It's the achey thing and not being able to move sometimes when I've been sitting for a while. Is it age? 

Reckon....physical activity could be a factor too?

Yeah, I'll admit I'm not as agile as I should be 

FM
Originally Posted by Garage Joe:
See I don't have an oestrogen count, nor since I threw it in the back of the van, a menstrual cycle, however I've lived through it all with m'dear wife, whose name escapes me, and trust me, diet, exercise, and red clover is where it's at.

*Goes to have a look at this red clover thing*

FM
Originally Posted by Supercalifragilistic:
Originally Posted by Soozy Woo:

I'm menopausal but hate meddling with nature ..........i'M TRYING REALLY HARD TO GET THROUGH IT WITHOUT MEDICAL INTERVENTION. Sorry for the caps ..................................on the plus side - it saves on the heating bills! 

Did you try the serenity cream Suzy?

For me: hot flushes every 10 mins or so ALL DAY EVERY DAY just got too bloody much

I did ...............and didn't think it made too much difference - Mr Woo disagrees and says 'you really were better on that stuff' possibly I was - it may have took a while to kick in by which time I'd lost patience ......................i may send off for another pot.

Soozy Woo
Originally Posted by Soozy Woo:
Originally Posted by Supercalifragilistic:
Originally Posted by Soozy Woo:

I'm menopausal but hate meddling with nature ..........i'M TRYING REALLY HARD TO GET THROUGH IT WITHOUT MEDICAL INTERVENTION. Sorry for the caps ..................................on the plus side - it saves on the heating bills! 

Did you try the serenity cream Suzy?

For me: hot flushes every 10 mins or so ALL DAY EVERY DAY just got too bloody much

I did ...............and didn't think it made too much difference - Mr Woo disagrees and says 'you really were better on that stuff' possibly I was - it may have took a while to kick in by which time I'd lost patience ......................i may send off for another pot.

Try again Sooz.   It can't be doing any harm if hubby's saying that 

FM

Achey and bent will have nothing to do with yer hormones Pam. I'd ask if you're not sleeping well enough. If so, at your age that is likely to be menopausal. 

 

I saw my GP about this and realised I'd been pre-menopausal for more than a decade. When I finally stopped my periods 10 years later I talked to my GP again he flung out a prescription for HRT. When I read how you have to take it I realised it was so complicated and how hard it was to integrate into my existing medication regime I realised I needed to try and find out more about this menopause thing! 

 

And then I realised how HRT may only delay the menopause symptoms rather than eradicate them. Bummer!  

 

I opted for the 'sweat it out then' approach. I still regret it to this day but reckon I've got to stick with it now and think 3 years on I'm getting there! 

Xochi
Originally Posted by Soozy Woo:
 

I did ...............and didn't think it made too much difference - Mr Woo disagrees and says 'you really were better on that stuff' possibly I was - it may have took a while to kick in by which time I'd lost patience ......................i may send off for another pot.

At ÂĢ20 all in it's worth persevering...oh and dare i say it alcohol and coffee definitely make the flushes a lot worse, in my experience

FM
Originally Posted by Xochiquetzal:

 

 

And then I realised how HRT may only delay the menopause symptoms rather than eradicate them. Bummer!  

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

When I realised that I thought ....................bugger it - I'll see it through. Some of my friends have thought - I need respite now - I hate all the symptoms but look forward to the day when it's all behind me - I don't want an easy fix now only to feel shot later in life when there maybe other problems to cope with. And ..................much as it's a pile of crap - it is just nature really - I have to be dying to take a paracetamol TBH .............I believe in letting nature take it's course (with the exception of Zantac).

Soozy Woo
Originally Posted by Xochiquetzal:

Achey and bent will have nothing to do with yer hormones Pam. I'd ask if you're not sleeping well enough. If so, at your age that is likely to be menopausal. 

 

I saw my GP about this and realised I'd been pre-menopausal for more than a decade. When I finally stopped my periods 10 years later I talked to my GP again he flung out a prescription for HRT. When I read how you have to take it I realised it was so complicated and how hard it was to integrate into my existing medication regime I realised I needed to try and find out more about this menopause thing! 

 

And then I realised how HRT may only delay the menopause symptoms rather than eradicate them. Bummer!  

I opted for the 'sweat it out then' approach. I still regret it to this day but reckon I've got to stick with it now and think 3 years on I'm getting there! 

If I lived to be a 1000 I couldn't read all of the posts on those menopause forums!

Serenity natural progesterone cream is the way to go for me, bloody marvellous and I'm now down to a mini smidgeon every 2/3 days

FM
Originally Posted by Supercalifragilistic:
Originally Posted by Xochiquetzal:

Achey and bent will have nothing to do with yer hormones Pam. I'd ask if you're not sleeping well enough. If so, at your age that is likely to be menopausal. 

 

I saw my GP about this and realised I'd been pre-menopausal for more than a decade. When I finally stopped my periods 10 years later I talked to my GP again he flung out a prescription for HRT. When I read how you have to take it I realised it was so complicated and how hard it was to integrate into my existing medication regime I realised I needed to try and find out more about this menopause thing! 

 

And then I realised how HRT may only delay the menopause symptoms rather than eradicate them. Bummer!  

I opted for the 'sweat it out then' approach. I still regret it to this day but reckon I've got to stick with it now and think 3 years on I'm getting there! 

If I lived to be a 1000 I couldn't read all of the posts on those menopause forums!

Serenity natural progesterone cream is the way to go for me, bloody marvellous and I'm now down to a mini smidgeon every 2/3 days

Yep! Those forums probably made me put myself through far more angst than I needed!  

 

Can you tell me about this cream please Supes? I still have bad nights so I'm still happy to try a natural product. PM if you want. 

Xochi
Originally Posted by Xochiquetzal:
 

Yep! Those forums probably made me put myself through far more angst than I needed!  

 

Can you tell me about this cream please Supes? I still have bad nights so I'm still happy to try a natural product. PM if you want. 

It's here Zochi http://www.progesterone.co.uk/

I'm a social not a natural scientist so don't even ask me to properly describe the theory behind it...My understanding is: for most women menopause /PMS/PND symptoms are caused by oestrogen overload/progesterone imbalance... (And, for those of you who think you should tough it out like your granny did, as I did for a year or more after my op' the reason we are suffering so much more is  'cos our food and water supply is overloading us with oestrogen more and more, so we're not just wimps!)

All I know is that my life was dominated by hot flushes, sweats, anxiety, panics and serious 'tummy problems' for a year, (after a surgically induced menopause,) and after two days of Serenity cream, my hot flushes etc. reduced from every ten mins to three a day and I got my life back!

FM
Originally Posted by Supercalifragilistic:
Originally Posted by Slinkiwitch x:

Take it it doesn't help with insomnia Supes Mornin'! 

Ha ha, I'm a night owl slinki and, usually, an early riser too. Had an early night and a lay in yesterday 'though, so I'm stored up for the next month or so!

!  Like a camel of sleep  

FM

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