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cos Annoca.. I had never heard of the breed before you introduced us to Remy... and I can never remember it... let alone spell it.
I have never heard it said out loud either...
and I have never met a *checks spelling* petit brabancon..
they're a bit 'specialist'
Mongrels every time for me. Although there are a lot of breeds I like for looks and temperament, I am really against breeding dogs for money especially when there are so many unwanted dogs out there.
I especially dislike the breeds that are mutated to have serious health problems just to get a certain look - cruel and unnecessary imo
I especially dislike the breeds that are mutated to have serious health problems just to get a certain look - cruel and unnecessary imo
aww sorry annoca 
but i had never heard of his breed either till you told us 
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I especially dislike the breeds that are mutated to have serious health problems
Oh I agree with you there!Ideally I'd like to see the breeding go back a category (if you know what I mean)... as in .. hounds, terriers, etc etc...
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Mongrels every time for me. Although there are a lot of breeds I like for looks and temperament, I am really against breeding dogs for money especially when there are so many unwanted dogs out there. I especially dislike the breeds that are mutated to have serious health problems just to get a certain look - cruel and unnecessary imo
Fair point Veggie.
Hiya Ditty
I understand why people want certain breeds as with a mongrel it can be really hard at the puppy stage to see what you will end up with
I grew up around dogs, my stepfather's family have always bred, boarded and groomed dogs professionally so I've seen the industry (for that's what it is) from the inside.
My stepfathers family are reputable, kind and decent but even so...........
Hypocritically one of the breeds I would love to own are Bernese Mountain dogs
I understand why people want certain breeds as with a mongrel it can be really hard at the puppy stage to see what you will end up with
I grew up around dogs, my stepfather's family have always bred, boarded and groomed dogs professionally so I've seen the industry (for that's what it is) from the inside.
My stepfathers family are reputable, kind and decent but even so...........
Hypocritically one of the breeds I would love to own are Bernese Mountain dogs
Hi Yogi
whats that horrible vile disease that king charles spaniels are prone to getting? something to do with their brains or skulls , all down to selective breeding 
Hi Veggie...
yep.. and this is where I am a dirty great hypocrite too... when I had finally bullied my hubby into agreeing to get a puppy, I gave serious consideration to doing what I knew was the right thing... and getting a cross breed.
I desperately wanted a cairn, cos I wanted a dog that had the character that my childhood dog had... but I think I would have taken the plunge on a cross breed had it not been for the kids. they had never had much experience with a dog before... my son was terrified of them... I ended up getting the cairn cos I knew what to expect.
the huge hypocrisy in this is that actually had that been the major reason for choosing a dog... I would have gone for a lab...
terriers.. especially cairn terriers are not the best starter dogs for nervous children. my boy spent the first three weeks sitting on the stairs cos the puppy had sharp teeth and thought his feet were fair game. (obviously we sorted this out as a priority... straight to puppy school! )
yep.. and this is where I am a dirty great hypocrite too... when I had finally bullied my hubby into agreeing to get a puppy, I gave serious consideration to doing what I knew was the right thing... and getting a cross breed.
I desperately wanted a cairn, cos I wanted a dog that had the character that my childhood dog had... but I think I would have taken the plunge on a cross breed had it not been for the kids. they had never had much experience with a dog before... my son was terrified of them... I ended up getting the cairn cos I knew what to expect.
the huge hypocrisy in this is that actually had that been the major reason for choosing a dog... I would have gone for a lab...
terriers.. especially cairn terriers are not the best starter dogs for nervous children. my boy spent the first three weeks sitting on the stairs cos the puppy had sharp teeth and thought his feet were fair game. (obviously we sorted this out as a priority... straight to puppy school! )
Chicken - I think you are referring to syringomyelia.
It affects the Cavalier King Charles Spaniel - but oddly, not the King Charles Spaniel.
It affects the Cavalier King Charles Spaniel - but oddly, not the King Charles Spaniel.
thanx Annoca , i remember watching a programme on tv , think it was about showing dogs and there was a massive section about the disease and cavalier king charles spaniels , was awful
very cute ANNOCA 
looking forward to seeing Dante he really is the forum dog 
looking forward to seeing Dante he really is the forum dog I'm not a great lover of terrier breeds Ditty or of small dogs; my Stepfathers family always bred GSDs, Afghans, Rotties and Poodles at two separate kennels where they also boarded and the worst for temperament were always the poodles.
We always had mongrels as pets at home, only ever had one that was a nightmare and that was because he had a brain tumour and had to be put down at 9 months old
I think it's so important for kids to grow up with animals, if only to teach them respect for other species.
Hi Chicken btw 
Know what you mean about the Cavaliers, so wrong
hey veggie , thats so sad about your dog being put down at 9 months
it is so wrong isnt it? makes me mad!
it is so wrong isnt it? makes me mad!
Yes Chicken. It is indeed terrible. The brain swells and the cranial structure cannot contain it.
It is extremely painful for the poor dogs that are afflicted - and worse still, by the time the symptoms begin to show, it is too late, as there is no cure.
It is extremely painful for the poor dogs that are afflicted - and worse still, by the time the symptoms begin to show, it is too late, as there is no cure.
makes me mad ANNOCA , how could anyone do that? 
No worries Baz im feeling better today thanx , had a little panic last night whilst getting to sleep but thats about it 
im feeling better today thanx , had a little panic last night whilst getting to sleep but thats about it Reference: Veggie
I think it's so important for kids to grow up with animals, if only to teach them respect for other species
oh absolutely! it teaches them empathy for animals...
It happens Chicken, unfortunately. I was about 7 years old at the time so it was over 40 years ago but I can remember all of our pets with affection.
Someone I used to work for had a Cavalier and it developed epilepsy and had to be put down as they couldn't control the fits. I wonder if that had anything to do with the brain problems
Someone I used to work for had a Cavalier and it developed epilepsy and had to be put down as they couldn't control the fits. I wonder if that had anything to do with the brain problems
My favourite breeds:
Bullmastiff
Great Dane
Mastiff
Old Tyme Bulldog
Dogue de Bordeaux
Unfortunately most of these breeds above get messed around with by the so called 'experts'.
Bullmastiff
Great Dane
Mastiff
Old Tyme Bulldog
Dogue de Bordeaux
Unfortunately most of these breeds above get messed around with by the so called 'experts'.
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I'm not a great lover of terrier breeds Ditty or of small dogs
shhhhh... terriers don't realise they are 'small dogs'
its quite likely veggie
on the subject of messing around with 'em....
I am loving seeing rotties & boxers, other previously docked tail dogs with tails around the place now!
There is an adolescent boxer near us.... he looks fab with his tail!
touchy subject I know... but I like tails!
I am loving seeing rotties & boxers, other previously docked tail dogs with tails around the place now!
There is an adolescent boxer near us.... he looks fab with his tail!
touchy subject I know... but I like tails!
i like tails too Ditty! Theres a springer spaniel in the village i live in with a docked tail.... dont like it at all
I'm glad that they keep their tails now too, so much nicer and more humane
We got our first Golden Retriever when our sons were small - the youngest was only 15months - because we wanted a dog which would be good with kids. She was so clever and fantastic with the boys, her looks were just an added bonus. Our second GR is now 5 years old, and is as clever and good-natured as our first. Hubby feels he knows what he's getting with retrievers and wouldn't have any other breed.
we love golden retrievers too Yogi! Dylan is our second now he is almost 3
he is almost 3
thank you baz
Ditty - Dante has his natural tail.
On the subject of "experts messing around" - what most people forget is that ALL dogs have been "messed around" and the 240 breeds recognised by Kennel Clubs around the world are, to all intent and purpose, mongrels.
There is no such thing as a dog with a totally pure, undiluted pedigree.
On the subject of "experts messing around" - what most people forget is that ALL dogs have been "messed around" and the 240 breeds recognised by Kennel Clubs around the world are, to all intent and purpose, mongrels.
There is no such thing as a dog with a totally pure, undiluted pedigree.
thats true ANNOCA , what im against is messing around for no reason except for the owner wanting to win at a show. not fair on the animal
Yep, taking bullmastiffs as an example....how they looked 100 years ago is so different to how they look today.
Personally I have a big problem with the Kennel Club and their 'rules'. Filthy lucre rules them.
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we love golden retrievers too Yogi! Dylan is our second now he is almost 3
They are fabulous dogs, aren't they Chicken?
they really are! i love them ! so friendly! Dylan wouldnt hurt anyone! he's amazing with kids aswell
No favourites. I love all types of dogs, don't care about pedigree at all.
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Ditty - Dante has his natural tail.
YAY!!!! and I hear ya about all dogs been bred etc etc... but there are some breeds where its obvious that something has to change.
I am with Cosmo on the Kennel Club I'm afraid. Take our Cairn... he looks exactly like the dog in their breed standard picture... an absolute dead ringer.
However... apparently he is too big! (he was one of a litter of three.. .his mums first litter).. he is totally in proportion... but is about 50% bigger than your average Cairn.
But the vet herself says... he is a fantastically healthy dog... with excellent natural physique etc!
Hubby & I dream of breeding the Giant Cairn... a cairn the size of a great dane!
Would have to be called digby!
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shhhhh... terriers don't realise they are 'small dogs'
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they're big dogs trapped in small bodies
uh huh! which is really really really stupid of them... when kicking off with a rhodesian ridgeback or dirty great Rottweiller!