This seems to be the new guidance from the government.
As pretty much a teetotaller it won't really affect me, but what do you all think to the changing guidance?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-35255384
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It's meaningless by and large. Prople will still get drunk, very drunk and extremely drunk!
I think the government can shove their guidance up their hypocritical bahookies.
Headlines on the ten o'clock news 
Sprout posted:Headlines on the ten o'clock news
BBC...? That would figure.
They're saying it causes cancer and all the rest of it. Show/tell us why/how?
Cosmopolitan posted:Sprout posted:Headlines on the ten o'clock news
BBC...? That would figure.
I shouldn't worry too much. I was reading something today which suggested that the German medicos think 60 units a week is the health borderline.
I was amused at the chick on the news who said she had been ill after drinking three bottles of wine. This seemed to justify why the rest of us should cut down on our moderate drinking.
TBF the official line is that if we keep within government guidelines then we will live forever. I expect the truth lies between these two extremes.
Garage Joe posted:I shouldn't worry too much. I was reading something today which suggested that the German medicos think 60 units a week is the health borderline.
I was amused at the chick on the news who said she had been ill after drinking three bottles of wine. This seemed to justify why the rest of us should cut down on our moderate drinking.
TBF the official line is that if we keep within government guidelines then we will live forever. I expect the truth lies between these two extremes.
Flipping eck Joe, I would be dead after a week at 60 units 
That would see me off to that great pub in the sky 
Sprout posted:They're saying it causes cancer and all the rest of it. Show/tell us why/how?
Alcohol's been known to cause cancer for decades. The WHO classified it as a "Group 1" carcinogen in 1988.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...gen_and_cocarcinogen
Also from the Wiki page: 3.6% of all cancer cases worldwide are attributable to alcohol consumption, however a 2011 study found it was as high as 10% for European men. 
On the same basis one hopes that they will ban Diesel engines too. Whilst on our daily bike ride we were overtaken by the old village bus. Dreadful fumes. Imagine what it is like for people who live near busy roads.
Eugene's Lair posted:Sprout posted:They're saying it causes cancer and all the rest of it. Show/tell us why/how?
Alcohol's been known to cause cancer for decades. The WHO classified it as a "Group 1" carcinogen in 1988.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...gen_and_cocarcinogen
Also from the Wiki page: 3.6% of all cancer cases worldwide are attributable to alcohol consumption, however a 2011 study found it was as high as 10% for European men.
I'm not sure this tells us much as, for example, if you live in a heavily polluted country the pollution will probably do for you. Many countries ban alcohol and many countries the people are too poor to drink or don't live long enough to get the types of cancers that alcohol creates. Those are often the countries with low life expectancies.
Yet those European countries with higher alcohol consumption generally have higher life expectancies. Counties with higher life expectancies are more likely to have cancer as a form of death. Just as it's far more common for, say, cats and dogs to get cancers at ages where cancers are rare in humans.
Living to 90 with half your mind left, in an adult nappy and barely being able to get out of bed doesn't seem so attractive compared to dying of an alcohol related disease in your seventies.
According to the ONS 1.4% of deaths in England and Wales were caused by excessive drinking.