Like the 'sugar tax' that's been banded around recently I think it's lazy and won't help tbh.

But Velvet you have to agree there are people who pass out and end up in A&E  regularly which could be seen as an avoidable cost, not only to the resources but the persons long term health? 

I enjoy drinking but by that (passing out) stage there's no point IMO it's wasting booze lol

Send out fines to those who do it  I mean clog the hospitals up) 

The whole 'system' is messed up in so many ways Velvet. 

Sledgehammer to crack a nut IMO ....people who consistently end up in A &E won't be put off by a tax ....any more than they would a sugar tax....

Sprout posted:

Send out fines to those who do it  I mean clog the hospitals up) 

Was my thinking Sprout. But make it a whopper, something that will make them think and the fine is paid directly to the hospital.

Enthusiastic Contrafibularities posted:

Sprout posted:

Send out fines to those who do it  I mean clog the hospitals up) 

Was my thinking Sprout. But make it a whopper, something that will make them think and the fine is paid directly to the hospital.

 Cor that was a quick first round.....phone rang and I missed it 

Syd posted:

 Cor that was a quick first round.....phone rang and I missed it 

 Ooooops, lost my thread there, ignore me 

Syd posted:

Syd posted:

 Cor that was a quick first round.....phone rang and I missed it 

 Ooooops, lost my thread there, ignore me 

Syd !

Enthusiastic Contrafibularities posted:

Sprout posted:

Send out fines to those who do it  I mean clog the hospitals up) 

Was my thinking Sprout. But make it a whopper, something that will make them think and the fine is paid directly to the hospital.

Loads of people drink and never bother the services.

Carnelian posted:

Loads of people drink and never bother the services.

But a lot do, and do  

Yeah but they pay their taxes and alcohol taxes.  GPs and medical students have quite a reputation for liking a drink.

Agreed, but with the state the NHS is in at the minute, anything  we can do to lessen the burden has to be a good thing, right? 

Charge them a fee for their A&E services.  It's self inflicted, messes up the queue of legitimate ' accidental emergencies' in the waiting room and 9 times out of 10 has resulted in ugly anti social behaviour too.  Can't be doing with 'em.

I'd expect to pay for self inflicted stoooopidity.

Cosmopolitan posted:

Charge them a fee for their A&E services.  It's self inflicted, messes up the queue of legitimate ' accidental emergencies' in the waiting room and 9 times out of 10 has resulted in ugly anti social behaviour too.  Can't be doing with 'em.

I'd expect to pay for self inflicted stoooopidity.

Cosmopolitan posted:

Charge them a fee for their A&E services.  It's self inflicted, messes up the queue of legitimate ' accidental emergencies' in the waiting room and 9 times out of 10 has resulted in ugly anti social behaviour too.  Can't be doing with 'em.

I'd expect to pay for self inflicted stoooopidity.

Thing is.  What's self inflicted?

You might say that respiratory problems are self inflected in people who smoke

Heart problems in people who are obese, muscle, arthritis and bone fractures in people who do (especially extreme) sports, liver problems in people who bulk up with steroids and protein mixes, people who visit tanning salons, the sexually promiscuous, sex workers, people who abuse illegal, legal and prescription drugs, suicide attempts, people in occupations where they are likely to be conflicts, people who have accidents when speeding, people who drive with bald tyres and other motor defects, people who ignore medical advice or shun treatment due to religious or other convictions, people who go to unsafe destinations on holiday or have dodgy private surgery, liver problems with people with excessive sugar intake.

The list is endless

Excellent post Carnelian

Exactly my take on the subject, but I would never have been able to write it so well