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In the small print of the documents issued yesterday by the government relating to the autumn statement:

 

Making Tax Digital: reducing errors through record keeping
Measure description
This measure will require businesses, self-employed people and landlords to integrate electronic record keeping with online tax reporting using business accounting software and to update their tax information at least quarterly to HMRC using these digital tools. The software, which will include apps for mobile devices, will include minimum standard functionality and data capture that prevents some error and promotes compliance. The use of software will reduce incidences of errors in tax returns, saving the public money.
 
These requirements will apply to most businesses including
companies, sole traders, self-employed people, partnerships and landlords.
It will not apply to employees, or pensioners, with a secondary income source from self-employment or property and whose gross income from this secondary source is under £10,000 per year.
The taxes in scope for this measure are Income Tax (IT), National Insurance Contributions (NICs), Corporation Tax (CT) and Value Added Tax (VAT).
The measure will be implemented for IT and NICs from April 2018, VAT from April 2019 and CT from April 2020. The roll out will be staggered by regime and in each case the year prior to mandating for each regime will consist of testing amongst a limited cohort of customers.

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These changes will have a fundamental effect on the way businesses operate due to the very substantial additional administrative costs and time. Business profits will be hit as a result. That's because very few businesses will have the necessary ability to comply to ensure that that the quarterly accounts information is a) accurate and b) sent in on time (which is likely to be within a month each quarter).

 

The proposals will go out for consultation next year. As they are so out of touch with the real world I hope that they are rejected.

 

The only people who benefit are the software businesses who will make a fortune at the cost to businesses and indirectly employees. Smaller businesses may decide to close. Accountants would struggle to help businesses in what is effectively 4 sets of accounts a year instead of 1.

 

 

 

El Loro
Originally Posted by Baz:

I noted that El Loro..and was surprised none of the pundits made more of it  

I think that the pundits didn't make more of it was because it's not something which is happening for another 2+ years.

 

I can't think of any of my clients who would be happy with the proposals and for some of them, they'll just give up and retire. I spoke with the largest client I deal with which is an industrial roofing contractor. They think the idea in insane and doubt if any of the subcontractors they use would be able to cope. I spoke to another accountant a while ago and he is of the same view as me.

 

El Loro
Originally Posted by Garage Joe:
I only just got rid of VAT
Honestly! I'm much happier keeping a self designed book. It's so much more straightforward. None of the so called time saving software has ever been appropriate.

And you are not alone in thinking that.

El Loro
Originally Posted by Garage Joe:
Excuse my manners El Loro!
I was so annoyed as to forget to thank you for bringing it to our attention!

No problem. I'm so annoyed by the proposals that I hadn't noticed

El Loro

My accountancy institute has published its thoughts on Wednesday's autumn statement.

It sums ups its views on the intention to force all businesses into submitting quarterly accounts digitally with this.

 

As John McEnroe said: ‘you cannot be serious’.

El Loro
Originally Posted by El Loro:

My accountancy institute has published its thoughts on Wednesday's autumn statement.

It sums ups its views on the intention to force all businesses into submitting quarterly accounts digitally with this.

 

As John McEnroe said: ‘you cannot be serious’.

 Throws accounting books on floor in disgust 

They are the pits 

Moonie

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