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Originally Posted by Cosmopolitan:

It's not a spoiler, Pirate - the show's been aired.

I had stayed away from the Strictly threads as I hadn't watched it at that point and didn't expect to see any posts about strictly in a breastfeeding thread.. so for me it was a spoiler ,, but ho hum too late .. ah well that'll teach me to be on a forum before watching something

Mount Olympus *Olly*
Originally Posted by pirate1111:
 
 

hey blizz!

not seen you for ages!

hope youer all fine & dandy

 

and yep im aware my views are outdated

but its the way i was brought up

and the way i feel

but everyone is different

and i cant believe pixie is out!

 

Hi pirate.

All fine, apart from a fractured humerus just before Christmas.  

 

I'll say it again - your views are not outdated and not old-fashioned - they are the opposite.

 

Historically, women were free to breastfeed whenever and wherever their babies needed it. It was seen as completely normal, which it obviously is, and completely acceptable. This strange attitude is a modern-day step backwards for our culture and probably stems back to the commercial production of baby milk formula. People were conned into thinking that formula milk was better for their babies. 'Better' parents were willing to pay good money to feed their offspring, not just giving them that cheap old breastmilk that the 'poor' had to give their kids. It became a keeping-up-with-the-Joneses thing. Breast feeding began to disappear. It became so unusual to see that it began to shock some people. People who grew up never seeing it, assumed it was a private, hidden activity, if it happened at all. Women who did do it in public must be doing it to shock others.

 

This is why your views are so prevalent and why we need to stop it being hidden away. Even if some have to suffer a bit of an uncomfortable feeling when they see it.

 

Another link showing women throughout history being 'ostentatious' -   http://www.buzzfeed.com/southe...e-breastfeeding-jlw6    

 

Please give it a look, pirate. It won't harm you. 

Blizz'ard
Last edited by Blizz'ard
Originally Posted by Blizz'ard:
Originally Posted by pirate1111:
 
 

hey blizz!

not seen you for ages!

hope youer all fine & dandy

 

and yep im aware my views are outdated

but its the way i was brought up

and the way i feel

but everyone is different

and i cant believe pixie is out!

 

Hi pirate.

All fine, apart from a fractured humerus just before Christmas.  

 

I'll say it again - your views are not outdated and not old-fashioned - they are the opposite.

 

Historically, women were free to breastfeed whenever and wherever their babies needed it. It was seen as completely normal, which it obviously is, and completely acceptable. This strange attitude is a modern-day step backwards for our culture and probably stems back to the commercial production of baby milk formula. People were conned into thinking that formula milk was better for their babies. 'Better' parents were willing to pay good money to feed their offspring, not just giving them that cheap old breastmilk that the 'poor' had to give their kids. It became a keeping-up-with-the-Joneses thing. Breast feeding began to disappear. It became so unusual to see that it began to shock some people. People who grew up never seeing it, assumed it was a private, hidden activity, if it happened at all. Women who did do it in public must be doing it to shock others.

 

This is why your views are so prevalent and why we need to stop it being hidden away. Even if some have to suffer a bit of an uncomfortable feeling when they see it.

 

Another link showing women throughout history being 'ostentatious' -   http://www.buzzfeed.com/southe...e-breastfeeding-jlw6    

 

Please give it a look, pirate. It won't harm you. 

all i can say is if i saw kate moss breastfeeding i wouldnt be saying

'oh well done her'

pirate1111
Originally Posted by pirate1111:
 

all i can say is if i saw kate moss breastfeeding i wouldnt be saying

'oh well done her'

Well, there you go. 

 

If Baz is still reading, here's an example of the lewd variety.

Renton's was a combination of the lewd and the prude.

Both of them think that they are being humorous, but fail to see that their idea of humour has a damaging effect on young women, who may be deciding whether to try breastfeeding, on young men, who should be supporting the mother of their children if they were trying to breastfeed, and on babies who miss out on it, because some tosseurs have made women feel that it is shameful.

 

If pirate had bothered to look at my link, he'd have seen lots of completely normal men hanging around with normal women and normal children, doing completely normal things and behaving normally.

Oh, and there is some breastfeeding going on.

Blizz'ard
Originally Posted by Blizz'ard:
Originally Posted by pirate1111:
 

all i can say is if i saw kate moss breastfeeding i wouldnt be saying

'oh well done her'

Well, there you go. 

 

If Baz is still reading, here's an example of the lewd variety.

Renton's was a combination of the lewd and the prude.

Both of them think that they are being humorous, but fail to see that their idea of humour has a damaging effect on young women, who may be deciding whether to try breastfeeding, on young men, who should be supporting the mother of their children if they were trying to breastfeed, and on babies who miss out on it, because some tosseurs have made women feel that it is shameful.

 

If pirate had bothered to look at my link, he'd have seen lots of completely normal men hanging around with normal women and normal children, doing completely normal things and behaving normally.

Oh, and there is some breastfeeding going on.

Excellent link Bliz, thanks,clearly demonstrates that the current disquiet/awkwardness/revulsion at breastfeeding, is a modern affectation.

 

Pirate, click the link, there's a chance you may learn some thing.

jacksonb

 

The Royal view....    I'm still chuckling at the bit in bold....  even if it's not meant to be funny.

 

 

Princess Michael of Kent has admitted she is not in favour of breastfeeding in public after she was reported to have described it as a "dreadful practice".

 

The Princess, who is married to the Queen's cousin Prince Michael of Kent, said it was not something she would do herself, but believed it was up to the individual to decide.

In a statement issued by her spokesman Simon Astaire, she said: "It's not something I would do in public but everyone has a free choice."

According to the Daily Mail, when asked about breastfeeding in public, Czech-born Marie-Christine said: "My advice to women is don't breastfeed - it's a dreadful practice. I didn't breastfeed. My nanny said it was disgusting."

The Princess, whose son Lord Freddie Windsor and daughter Lady Gabriella Windsor are grown up, is understood to have had difficulty breastfeeding her children.

Emily Slough, of the Free to Feed campaign group, said it was damaging for mothers to face negative comments about breastfeeding.

Ms Slough, from Rugeley, Staffordshire, who founded Free to Feed in March after she was labelled a ''tramp'' on Facebook for breastfeeding in public, said: "I just think somebody with that kind of social standing should think about what they're saying.

"It's incredibly damaging for women trying to breastfeed their children and trying to do the best for them to hear negative comments about breastfeeding.

"I don't understand what the logic is. It's not disgusting. It's not dreadful. That's how we're supposed to feed our children.

"If they can't get over the whole women and breasts things - it's just babies eating."

The Princess's comments follow recent debate about whether it is acceptable to breastfeed in public, with Ukip leader Nigel Farage being one of the political figures to wade in with their opinions.

He used his LBC phone-in show to suggest mothers could ''sit in the corner'' in restaurants to avoid offending people.

Mothers staged a mass ''nurse-in'' outside Claridge's hotel in London last week to protest over an incident in which a woman was asked to cover herself up when she was breastfeeding in the restaurant.

Prime Minister David Cameron came out in support of breastfeeding in public following Mr Farage's remarks, with a Number 10 spokeswoman saying: ''The Prime Minister shares the view of the NHS, which is that breastfeeding is completely natural, and it's totally unacceptable for any women to be made to feel uncomfortable when breastfeeding in public."

The Duchess of Cambridge is thought to have breastfed Prince George, but is unlikely to have done so in public for fear of media intrusion.

Diana, Princess of Wales, breastfed her sons, while the Queen is said to have breastfed Prince Charles until she contracted measles when he was two months old.

But Queen Victoria, a mother of nine, called breastfeeding "a horror" and employed wet nurses instead.

 
Kaffs

ok

i looked at the link

and im aware that mammals breastfeed-im thick-but not that thick

im also aware its a natural thing to do

and its been going on since year dot

but it still makes me feel uncomfortable

and embarrassed

(as you can see by my stupid/immature/crass 'kate moss' comment)

and in hindsight i concede that its me thats got the problem

pirate1111
Originally Posted by pirate1111:

ok

i looked at the link

and im aware that mammals breastfeed-im thick-but not that thick

im also aware its a natural thing to do

and its been going on since year dot

but it still makes me feel uncomfortable

and embarrassed

(as you can see by my stupid/immature/crass 'kate moss' comment)

and in hindsight i concede that its me thats got the problem

and everyone else that feels as you do too...

Mount Olympus *Olly*
Originally Posted by Mount Olympus *Olly*:
Originally Posted by pirate1111:

ok

i looked at the link

and im aware that mammals breastfeed-im thick-but not that thick

im also aware its a natural thing to do

and its been going on since year dot

but it still makes me feel uncomfortable

and embarrassed

(as you can see by my stupid/immature/crass 'kate moss' comment)

and in hindsight i concede that its me thats got the problem

and everyone else that feels as you do too...

well i cant speak for them olly

pirate1111
Originally Posted by Cinds:

The whole debate get right on my tits. (Pun intended).

 

It's a baby feeding for goodness sake. Most feeding mothers do it in such a manner that it's hardly noticible, but then you'll get the tits that notice it & get all up in arms, like Nigel Farage. Who suggested breastfeeding mothers should hide away in a corner. I did tweet to him about nobody putting baby in the corner.

 

Anyway, my opinion is, if you're nursing an infant get your tits out and be proud.

I saw that in the paper, if anyone should be made to sit in the corner (preferably facing the wall) it's Farage... he's FAR more offensive than any breastfeeding mother

SazBomb
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