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Originally Posted by Kaffs:
Originally Posted by Supes:
 

Isn't it brilliant that we can be such good friends and disagree I think that they're nearly as bad as each other...except Linda is worse, miserable auld cah... and the only reason Linda even got in there was because of her hatred of Jim. I also think that the other 'stronger' women in there like Liz and Louisa can make their own minds up and won't be influenced by Linda.....they've concluded that he is a mysoginistic dinosaur!

Amen to that       I'll give you Liz and Luisa... but I was thinking more of Sam - who only nominated Jim because she liked Linda and Linda didn't like Jim - and I think Luisa just dislikes men of a certain age, full stop.  She likes a ruck and would want in on the argument... and no way she'd take Jim's side so she's a willing side kick, whether or not she has valid reasons to hate him.   That aside, she has been a good housemate - much as I can't stand her 

Sam is wallpaper, but cute, (as in astute rather than fanciable) she's played a good game, kept herself out of the rucks and OTT sexual antics, but still kept herself 'in' with the hm's. She's changing her game now with the 'i might fancy Ollie' card...could be her downfall? 

As for Louisa, what a horror, but what a brilliant hm, and why oh why when she moves from one to the next, do they open up to her and give her more ammunition.....what a player and she's getting away with it!

FM
Originally Posted by Cosmopolitan:
Originally Posted by Supes:
 

 You are having a laugh here, (my friend) He's constantly saying 'not me' after he's thrown a grenade and then walks away with his hands up to 'innocently' watch the fall out

We don't see it the same way, do we

Nope, we'll never agree on Jim 

 

Now stop picking on me, I am poor defenceless divorcee - since remarried, and I need to sob about all my woes.  I blame you for it ALL  

 

 

Shuks, I'm a bulleh, I'm off to DS!

FM
Originally Posted by Bethni:
Originally Posted by Supes:
Originally Posted by Cosmopolitan:
Originally Posted by Supes:
Originally Posted by Senora Reyes:
Originally Posted by Supes:

Against the grain here, I know, but I think that Jim drops a bomb, then walks away and 'innocently' holds his hands, walks away and watches the fallout, as if he's got nothing to do with it. Don't like miserable Linda AT ALL but he's doing a great job at subtly winding her up, repeatedly

Linda does exactly the same..Jim's just better at it..

Both nasty barstewards imo

Yes, probably they both are - and have been.

The difference that I see is that only ONE of them is trying to claim angelic status.

 You are having a laugh here, (my friend) He's constantly saying 'not me' after he's thrown a grenade and then walks away with his hands up to 'innocently' watch the fall out

We don't see it the same way, do we

we just don't see the same at all  I don't see the 'constant grenades'. His remark about Frank Carson was beneath the belt, but it's the only thing he has done wrong in my opinion. The remark about the wine was a joke. Linda, on the other hand, has sat in bed picking, niggling, bad-mouthing. If we can agree that Luisa is entertaining even though she is an irritant, then why cant we give Jim the benefit of the doubt too? BB would definitely have shown Jim in a really bad light if they possibly could have, so he obviously hasn't been as bad as Linda.... it's been a great BB though, very entertaining to watch

There was nothing, imo, about that remark that was a joke, just pure nastiness from someone who has had his own problems with alcohol

FM
Originally Posted by The Mexican Masher (Xochi):
Originally Posted by Cosmopolitan:
Originally Posted by Kaffs:
Originally Posted by Supes:

In the scheme of things..here's the ultimate pop' psychologist! No better than anyone on here at working out what's giong on

but

but

but

 

she's a GLADIATOR!!    

So was Russell Crowe.  Now, if he was on here......

  

As long as he doesn't try to sing!

FM
Originally Posted by Supes:
Originally Posted by Kaffs:
Originally Posted by Supes:
Originally Posted by erinp:
Originally Posted by Senora Reyes:

Jim you did bring up miserygut's husband you just lied..Not that I'm backing her in any way she is vile and 10x worse than Jim. Linda is a bully and extremely manipulative..

He said 'Ask her about Frank Carson's dressing room ' knowing that it was in connection with Linda's hubby. He should not have gone there.

One of the many eg's of what I just posted, along with, for e.g. "Where's Linda?" Jim: "Probably finishing off the red wine"

both of them came fairly late on in the series though supes and she's been picking at him since day one.   That said, Senora's right - he's better at it.

Kaffs: do you not think that it was going on from the start....stuff that we didn't see in the hour's 'hl's'?

Jim never mentioned her husband or what happened in Frank Carson's dressing room, so in a point of fact he wasn't lying.

Videostar
Originally Posted by Supes:
Originally Posted by Kaffs:
Originally Posted by Supes:
Originally Posted by Kaffs:
Originally Posted by Supes:
Originally Posted by erinp:
Originally Posted by Senora Reyes:

Jim you did bring up miserygut's husband you just lied..Not that I'm backing her in any way she is vile and 10x worse than Jim. Linda is a bully and extremely manipulative..

He said 'Ask her about Frank Carson's dressing room ' knowing that it was in connection with Linda's hubby. He should not have gone there.

One of the many eg's of what I just posted, along with, for e.g. "Where's Linda?" Jim: "Probably finishing off the red wine"

both of them came fairly late on in the series though supes and she's been picking at him since day one.   That said, Senora's right - he's better at it.

Kaffs: do you not think that it was going on from the start....stuff that we didn't see in the hour's 'hl's'?

honestly?    I think he went into the house on the defensive and she went in on the attack.   She made a point of saying how much she hated him and hoped he wouldn't be in there before they even went in.    I may be naive, but I do think he's trying to be a better person, and she's determined to keep him as the misogynistic dinosaur he used to be, to prove that she and her sainted husband were wronged by him all those years ago.  She's done this by snarling at him since the start and her picking has got worse as it's gone on.   Yes, he's had his bit to say (much less than I would if I'm honest) but he's said it, in the main, to her - she's had a posse around her that she's drip fed her poison to - and she's getting even worse now because the scales have fallen off some of their eyes and they see her for the bitter old harridan that she is.   I would have much preferred to have seen Jim not constantly attacked then we'd have got a better idea of how reformed he is.

 I think that they're nearly as bad as each other

Im sorry Supes, but IMO that is crap and im sick of hearing that from some people...I want evidence that Jim has been as bad as Linda?  she has (from what we've all seen) started every row between them, right from the first week and her bizarre and rather shocking first attack on him, in the bedroom with all her subjects surrounding her bed...even Jim was totally shocked by her massive about turn on him after the handcuff task where they were getting on famously.

 

Even Colleen Nolan openly admitted (TWICE) that Linda's sole reason for going in was to annoy and upset Jim by goading him....so there is absolutely no doubt that they are not as bad as eachother, it's not a 50/50 thing as the biased bots show would have us believe,  it's totally one insane deluded sad old womans attempts to try and destroy a man who is trying to get his life back together.

Videostar
Originally Posted by Supes:
Originally Posted by Kaffs:
Originally Posted by Supes:
Originally Posted by Kaffs:
Originally Posted by Supes:
Originally Posted by erinp:
Originally Posted by Senora Reyes:

Jim you did bring up miserygut's husband you just lied..Not that I'm backing her in any way she is vile and 10x worse than Jim. Linda is a bully and extremely manipulative..

He said 'Ask her about Frank Carson's dressing room ' knowing that it was in connection with Linda's hubby. He should not have gone there.

One of the many eg's of what I just posted, along with, for e.g. "Where's Linda?" Jim: "Probably finishing off the red wine"

both of them came fairly late on in the series though supes and she's been picking at him since day one.   That said, Senora's right - he's better at it.

Kaffs: do you not think that it was going on from the start....stuff that we didn't see in the hour's 'hl's'?

honestly?    I think he went into the house on the defensive and she went in on the attack.   She made a point of saying how much she hated him and hoped he wouldn't be in there before they even went in.    I may be naive, but I do think he's trying to be a better person, and she's determined to keep him as the misogynistic dinosaur he used to be, to prove that she and her sainted husband were wronged by him all those years ago.  She's done this by snarling at him since the start and her picking has got worse as it's gone on.   Yes, he's had his bit to say (much less than I would if I'm honest) but he's said it, in the main, to her - she's had a posse around her that she's drip fed her poison to - and she's getting even worse now because the scales have fallen off some of their eyes and they see her for the bitter old harridan that she is.   I would have much preferred to have seen Jim not constantly attacked then we'd have got a better idea of how reformed he is.

Isn't it brilliant that we can be such good friends and disagree?  I think that they're nearly as bad as each other...except Linda is worse, miserable auld cah... and the only reason Linda even got in there was because of her hatred of Jim. I also think that the other 'stronger' women in there like Liz and Louisa can make their own minds up and won't be influenced by Linda.....they've concluded that he is a mysoginistic dinosaur!

I think Luisa backs Linda up and sticks with her is because it brings luisa into the thick of it,she loves to stir it up so being Linda's confidant gives her all the ammo she needs.

I really quite like Luisa.

jacksonb
Originally Posted by jacksonb:
 

I think Luisa backs Linda up and sticks with her is because it brings luisa into the thick of it,she loves to stir it up so being Linda's confidant gives her all the ammo she needs.

I really quite like Luisa.

apart from your last sentence *twitches slappy hand*  that's spot on.   She doesn't give a flying one about either of them, or at a guess, anyone much apart from herself.      She's worth her wages as a HM though (but not go so far as to say I like her!)

Kaffs

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