nope

i started thread because of the petition

i went on to say C4 seem to be tarring everyone on benefits with the same brush (words to that effect)

and then i said the people on the prog are arseholes (also words to that effect)

because they are

and i dont know if its affect or effect which should be used?

Just for balance wouldn't it be nice to show a bunch of ppl legitiamely on the dole or sickness benefits and how they gave to cope. I'm sure IDS wets himeself everytime he opens a redtop and has a look at the letter page. Never mind.

Sorry pirate, posted my reply after page 1.

Regardless of the approach - it would make for a bloody miserable progamme.

We could explore tropical paradises? lets go scuba diving The Great Barrier Reef

OR

Scroungers on a filthy street.

Hmmm

There's hundred of holiday ads showing that.

*looks Cologne up and down*

Well you're easily pleased sweety

I can't get out the house, so they will have to do.

Cologne i heartily recommend Michael Portillo's train journeys

yep

100% correct

I'm halfway through watching the 2nd eppy and I'm feeling sorry for the 12yr old Romanian boy

Yes I watched it last night .....

I've paused it halfway Baz to watch BOTS, the poor lad, even though he was sweary (i put that down to his family not knowing what hes saying in English) it's looking like he has a tough life

Yes...all those people crammed into the house

The 14 Albanians! I felt really sorry for them too

Wouldn't give it the time of day.

i use another site

we go on about films

some bloke from US said he watched this prog

he was horrified

i told him life in england isnt the cotwolds

and more importantantly not all of us in birmingham are like that

im ashamed

of my spelling aswell

The local pub innit.

Feck the local pub.

Wankers.

I haven't watched it but I'm sick and tired of blatantly political right wing TV. 

I watched C4's 'Skint' and that was blatant Tory party spin.

Every day the BBC gets pilloried by the Murdoch press and DM for its 'bias' yet we have 'Saints and Scroungers", "Kyle", "Skint" and "People like us".

C4 is the worst by far.  For all its historical liberal claims, it's by far the worst for pumping out right wing propaganda.

All these recent series have a theme that residents are chosen to confirm to right wing stereotypes of the undeserving poor.

I'm sick of TV companies being propagandists for the Tory Party. 

Benefit Street producers even supplied their favourite undeserving poor characters with free cans of beer and filmed them drinking in the street.

Agree.

It's tiresome now.

I think Owen Jones has hit the nail on the head with his critique of modern media "Chavs: the demonisation of the working class".  At some point it became uncomfortable and uncool for middle class media types to sneer and take pot shots at immigrants and non white races.  That meant that the only fair game was the white lower working class. 

I'm not surprised that C4 delivered a more sympathetic account of Romanian immigrants because, heaven forbid, the last thing the trendies at C4 want is to be accused of racism.  However, when it comes to the struggling white, unemployed working class, they are fair game for vilification.

I'm no capable of your succinct critiques Carnelian but it had avoid written all over it.

Channel Four's the lowest common denominator these days as we all well know.

Channel 4 says: We are all in it together and the coalition are making the tough decisions for hard working families to clean up the mess left by the last lot who maxxed out the nation's credit card.

have I missed anything?

Aye.

The tits and the sex edu.

Indeed they are.  They've recently puffed themselves up with lots of spin about how radical and anti-establishment they are.

That may have been the case in the 80s and 90s but today they stuff their schedules with tawdry lifestyle exploitation like the Gok Wann shows, property and cookery shows.

They were anti-establishment in the 80s and 90s but they're a tawdry purveyor of sensationalist exploitation and rightist propaganda these days.

And tits.

The feckers think they're cutting edge.

Their news is all they have going....and that's on a good day.

Couldn't have put it better myself Carnelian