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Exactly!

 

I'm going to shut up about this shortly, but I think that she was shocked and stunned by how he suddenly turned and it got serious, I mean, really, the apparently 'mild-mannered Daley' (same reaction that we then saw from the hm's ..surely not?) She probably did think it was her fault because of how she behaved,  (on the night and beforehand,) and tried to end it by suggesting  a hug...How many bloody abused women have done that, whether they've been in a relationship for 5 mins or 5 years, (no answer required!)

OK  

Ouch... but I do deserve it!

As far as was hinted she got her post-fight hug!  They stayed in the same room and bed together all night.  Or did I mishear BB earlier?

Ha Ha, we could start a fan club Soozy, I think that's 4 or 5 of us now!

Oooo we're getting a proper fan club going now

We are a very opinionated bunch of people aren't we? I think we'd make a great group of HM's for one years BB.

too late Pukey - someone's already had that idea 

...and that's the size of it. Nice to see you brummie.

LOL..but you and I didn't get a place in the house GRRRRRR

No idea, they don't seem to tell or show us anything these days Whenever such drama happens on LF, they cut to another camera... kind of goes against the whole point of the show.

 

Just like last night Daley said Charlie/Hazel had to get out the garden... said BB said so, swore on his kids life. BB twitter then said he lied. Some reason they cut that out aswell, stupid as that's where it all started.

If Hazel was GENUINELY scared, all she had to do was call out to BIG BROTHER durhhhhhhh - there are cams and mics EVERYWHERE, they are being watched day n night  - I'm stunned nobody on here as mentioned that fact

ps - hello mi luv Cologne mwahh mwahh 

I take it Hazel won't be doing a save and replace on Wednesday night?

Callum's got loads of time for everyone tonight, he hopes they all win.

No ................but I expect she might be demanding hugs from one or two people.

They should have thrown a bucket of water over them

Agree with you Bazzers.

I'll jump in after the event  with my thoughts.

 

Neither of them should have been thrown out, they were doing almost precisely what Ch5 wanted them to do,steamy  gratification  of each others sexual needs for the benefit of the viewing figures.If Ch5 wanted them to keep it sanitised and Doris Day, with one foot on the floor at all times , then they should have told them at the start when they put them in the SH together.

 

The debacle seems to be around whether his behaviour was  acceptable -  well if viewed from the standpoint of what is considered 'normal' as being acecptable in a sexual situation - then no , it wasn't.

If it's being viewed by two  consenting adults - which seems to be the case here - as acceptable and even desirable - then yes it was fine.

 

The whole thing is seedy and sordid especially CH5's  role in it, the only reason Daley was thrown out was because CH5 feared the offcom.

 

*disclaimer - I personally find his behaviour and views to be  reprehensible.No always means no, regardless of the situation.I didn't see  her say 'no' though.

Precisely.. he did though, several times and her response was to wrap her legs around his waist and grind on his crotch.    I wonder what would have happened if it had been her saying no and him doing that.     He's a sleaze and (imo) a bit of dangerous nutjob, but I thought she was nasty prick tease before and just because he behaved abominably doesn't make me revise my opinion of her.

I want to apologise if I went off on one last night . I was just so frustrated that BB did not show the whole incident . If they had you would have seen that, at least in part , Hazel's actions were IMO an attempt to defuse the situation . Daley was fuming ( seen clearly on LF) that she had dared to disobey him when he had ordered ( and I do mean ordered) her to stop chatting to Charlie and come to bed . And his anger was apparent when she reentered the room . But I can see ( in the cold light of day) that without that context the whole incident took on a far less menacing appearance . 

By the way I don't like Hazel , and certainly do not condone , or like the way she has ( and no doubt will) carry on. My feelings are simply grounded in this one incident .

 

 

LF from Sunday night if anyone wants to see the full Daley/Hazel drama 

 

it is a safe link to click 

 

http://vimeo.com/70328579

 

I think this is worthy of sharing in a few threads 

 

LIVE Feed and the fan sites SAVE Big Brother, C5 run around like headless chickens!

on July 16, 2013 in Big Brother News

 

Way to go

Well I just watched it on catch up, and I have even surprised myself, because I'd always almot liked Hazel and always thought Daley was a prat.

 

He is a prat, that much hasn't changed, but I saw Hazel as the instigator of the play fight and the sexual provoking, she took his duvet she pulled his pants down and she slapped him on the bum.

 

He may have gone a bit ott with the mafia hardman  talk and the 'respect your elders tripe' but it was more laughable than threatening.

 

All she had to do at anytime if she felt in anyway intimidated is to say, out loud''BB get me out of here''  but she was enjoying herself, at no point did I think she looked or sounded even remotely scared or nervous.

 

I think she hung him out to dry when BB went over it with her, she played on the 'helpless female role' she should be ashamed of herself and the sisterhood should be ashamed of her too.

 

Imo.

But what has what she did /said afterwards got to do with what happened at the time ? And that's without knowing whether BB coached her! Truth is we don't know ...and will probably never know ...what went on after LF ended ...all we will know is what C5 want us to know !

That's very true Baz.My last paragraph about hanging  him out to dry is only my opinion of how she kept herself in the house, it has nothing to do with what happened.She , from what I saw was the instigator,she didn't appear scared or intimidated by him.In fact she upped the 'game'

The only time she ever appeared to not like the game was when he swiped her on the bum, but even after that she pulled his pants down.I'd say she was the agressor rather than him.

 

And I would have been more than happy to blame him for getting himself kicked off the show, but from what I saw, that wasn't how it was.

I can see why you would say that , given what was shown in the HL show and remaining clips ...but have you watched the whole thing on the link Mrs H put up ? If so , do you still feel the same JB ?

I watched a clip earlier, not sure which one it was.

The one where Daley is ordering Hazel out of the garden, swearing on his baby's life and f'ing and blinding about women? Effectively it was the run up to the HL clip , and why he initially wouldn't get in Hazel's bed ! The man was deranged !

Just watched it.

 

Whaat I saw  was a bloke who wanted to sleep and was  deliberately and noisilly awakened by Hazel running the room and pulling the duvet off him.

He woke up.

 

He probably wanted her to come in so she wouldn't do it again.Although he does sound narky.

 

Then I saw Hazel  come in and get into his bed.

 

Some banter,she gets into her bed and invites him in, he refuses to get into her bed, more banter, then she gets out of her bed and goes and straddles him  on his bed.

Did you not see him demanding she comes in from the garden ?? And if you did, do you think his tirade about women was disturbing ? If not , then I guess it's just me .

Yes, but blokes  mouth off, especially thick arrogant ones, when they've had a drink.lol.

He was annoyed and wanted her to come in because he had already tried to get to sleep.

None of that pre- amble had anything to do with the fight/play/tussle/banter they had later, much as I'd like to believe it was  his behaviour that caused it all, he really wasn't the aggressor.

Christ  I cannot believe I am defending Daley.

 

Ok JB ..I guess one person's scary rant is another persons banter...and I'm obviously out of step with the majority here

I kind of wish I was out of step  too Baz.It would  sit a lot better...

Trust me JB , it's not a comfortable place to be