Originally Posted by Rosgirl:
Originally Posted by Slinkiwitch x:
pathetic
Racist fear in Birmingham murder of Muslim grandfather
Originally Posted by Jenstar:
Racist fear in Birmingham murder of Muslim grandfather
disgrace.
I really hate the media at times... An eye witness (to the murder) on BBC news saying what he saw.. when the he got to the part where the police shot at the men the reporter asked (in 0.1 seconds) 'Did you hear the police shout a warning?' 
The witness just said they had the gun in their hand/s walking towards the the police car after telling people to go get the police........ fair play to the lad though he back tracked a little (quite well) after saying no and said there were lots of people shouting around him.
It's been confirmed the victim was a member of the armed services
Interesting - so,e of the comments underneath from those who know him - what a strange world we live in.
They've just spoke to a woman on Sky news whose son was in the army and she seemed to know who the victim is and she kept referring to him as just a boy
They've also confirmed that both of the men are British with one of them of being of Nigerian descent
Originally Posted by Jenstar:
Racist fear in Birmingham murder of Muslim grandfather
they still don't really know what the motive for this attack was, it could have been racially motivated but equally there could be a family reason that's not been disclosed.
Either way, it was a cowardly attack on an elderly gentleman
Originally Posted by Pengy:
Originally Posted by Jenstar:
Racist fear in Birmingham murder of Muslim grandfather
they still don't really know what the motive is for this attack was, it could have been racially motivated but equally there could be a family reason that's not been disclosed.
Either way, it was a cowardly attack on an elderly gentleman
Its a disgrace 
Cowards and animals
Originally Posted by Soozy Woo:
Interesting - so,e of the comments underneath from those who know him - what a strange world we live in.
interesting Soozy and I think two of the comments highlight where action does indeed need to be taken. This quote struck me:
"The facts are here are that this deranged boy in the video was born in Englandand British. He is Black. His parents are Nigerian. He was not born a Muslim. He may have ssiblings who are not Muslims. He changed religion in country. His conversion was in country. It should now be about clerics and their preaching in mosques so that we can save more people from ending up this way for both victims and perpetrators"
Converts or young disaffected men who weren't pious do seem to be easily manipulated by clerics to perform these acts so maybe that's where the police/authorities should be focusing their attention
Oh that's sad that his name etc is going around when
BBC Breaking News â@BBCBreaking
Serving soldier killed in #Woolwich attack yet to be publicly identified, in line with family wishes - Scotland Yard http://bbc.in/187CPcG
it's not good. Just hope the media leave the poor family alone
David Cameron revealed in a statement in Downing Street that the authorities will investigate exactly what the security services knew about the killers and whether the attack could have been prevented
Mail says MI5 were aware of him already (I know.. The Mail), but wonder if that's why they were so quick to call it a terrorist attack?
Originally Posted by El Loro:
I have removed a couple of posts where the name of the soldier is shown as his family have requested that his identity be kept private at this stage,
I was just coming to delete it 
Originally Posted by Aimee:
Originally Posted by El Loro:
I have removed a couple of posts where the name of the soldier is shown as his family have requested that his identity be kept private at this stage,
I was just coming to delete it
On the BBC news they said that the family had requested this because not all the family had yet been informed.
Originally Posted by Aimee:
They've just spoke to a woman on Sky news whose son was in the army and she seemed to know who the victim is and she kept referring to him as just a boy
That really got to me too.
Lil Aims tutor got a phone call from his wife earlier, one of the suspects lived on their road, the police are currently searching the house, the local estate agents had told her tutor a few weeks ago that a bloke had turned up and paid ÂĢ170,000 in cash for the house
He's been named on Sky news and the BBC now
I know, so sad, he leaves behind a 2yr old son
Originally Posted by Aimee:
I know, so sad, he leaves behind a 2yr old son
very sad
This Help for Heroes doesn't sit easy with me. Our modern day invading state sponsored trained killers are heroes and if the opposition has a go back they're terrorists.
Shitty way to go though so RIP (misguided) human.
We're their terrorists so it's pretty much check.
Where do I start with this?
I'm shocked this was done in broad daylight in a busy area.
I'm disgusted it was done with such pride on the part of the murderers.
I'm also disgusted that people filmed it on their phones and shared it online.
Originally Posted by Cagney:
Where do I start with this?
I'm shocked this was done in broad daylight in a busy area.
I'm disgusted it was done with such pride on the part of the murderers.
I'm also disgusted that people filmed it on their phones and shared it online.
In some ways that's almost the worst bit - misguided as the attackers were, somewhere in their deranged heads they thought they were doing something right. I can find nothing redeeming about filming and sharing it. If someone thought 'I'll video this and give it to the police' I might understand it - but putting it online is disgusting.
Originally Posted by KaffyBaffy:
Originally Posted by Cagney:
Where do I start with this?
I'm shocked this was done in broad daylight in a busy area.
I'm disgusted it was done with such pride on the part of the murderers.
I'm also disgusted that people filmed it on their phones and shared it online.
In some ways that's almost the worst bit - misguided as the attackers were, somewhere in their deranged heads they thought they were doing something right. I can find nothing redeeming about filming and sharing it. If someone thought 'I'll video this and give it to the police' I might understand it - but putting it online is disgusting.
My thoughts entirely
Just read this on Facebook....
Just out for a walk after an early stack
Not looking for trouble not watching my back
Mothers with prams holding hands with their kids
Not paying attention to the car as it skids
Caught completely off guard not expecting what comes
One man with a knife another with guns.
No chance of defence no chance to fight back
Looking for help as the cowards attack
An angel arrives as the light turns to grey
A woman attempts to steer attackers away
My last thought of âThank Youâ never strays from my brain
As my body shuts down and I feel no more pain.
I look to my left and I look to my right
Thousands of squaddies are all thatâs in sight
Uniforms are crisp and their faces are clean
No sign of anger or hate to be seen
As if by command they salute all as one
The RSM smiles, says âWelcome home sonâ.
Originally Posted by lal:
Just read this on Facebook....
Just out for a walk after an early stack
Not looking for trouble not watching my back
Mothers with prams holding hands with their kids
Not paying attention to the car as it skids
Caught completely off guard not expecting what comes
One man with a knife another with guns.
No chance of defence no chance to fight back
Looking for help as the cowards attack
An angel arrives as the light turns to grey
A woman attempts to steer attackers away
My last thought of âThank Youâ never strays from my brain
As my body shuts down and I feel no more pain.
I look to my left and I look to my right
Thousands of squaddies are all thatâs in sight
Uniforms are crisp and their faces are clean
No sign of anger or hate to be seen
As if by command they salute all as one
The RSM smiles, says âWelcome home sonâ.
Lal, that moved me to tears.
Originally Posted by lal:
Just read this on Facebook....
Just out for a walk after an early stack
Not looking for trouble not watching my back
Mothers with prams holding hands with their kids
Not paying attention to the car as it skids
Caught completely off guard not expecting what comes
One man with a knife another with guns.
No chance of defence no chance to fight back
Looking for help as the cowards attack
An angel arrives as the light turns to grey
A woman attempts to steer attackers away
My last thought of âThank Youâ never strays from my brain
As my body shuts down and I feel no more pain.
I look to my left and I look to my right
Thousands of squaddies are all thatâs in sight
Uniforms are crisp and their faces are clean
No sign of anger or hate to be seen
As if by command they salute all as one
The RSM smiles, says âWelcome home sonâ.
Beautiful words
Originally Posted by erinp:
Originally Posted by lal:
Just read this on Facebook....
Just out for a walk after an early stack
Not looking for trouble not watching my back
Mothers with prams holding hands with their kids
Not paying attention to the car as it skids
Caught completely off guard not expecting what comes
One man with a knife another with guns.
No chance of defence no chance to fight back
Looking for help as the cowards attack
An angel arrives as the light turns to grey
A woman attempts to steer attackers away
My last thought of âThank Youâ never strays from my brain
As my body shuts down and I feel no more pain.
I look to my left and I look to my right
Thousands of squaddies are all thatâs in sight
Uniforms are crisp and their faces are clean
No sign of anger or hate to be seen
As if by command they salute all as one
The RSM smiles, says âWelcome home sonâ.
Beautiful
Originally Posted by lal:
Just read this on Facebook....
Just out for a walk after an early stack
Not looking for trouble not watching my back
Mothers with prams holding hands with their kids
Not paying attention to the car as it skids
Caught completely off guard not expecting what comes
One man with a knife another with guns.
No chance of defence no chance to fight back
Looking for help as the cowards attack
An angel arrives as the light turns to grey
A woman attempts to steer attackers away
My last thought of âThank Youâ never strays from my brain
As my body shuts down and I feel no more pain.
I look to my left and I look to my right
Thousands of squaddies are all thatâs in sight
Uniforms are crisp and their faces are clean
No sign of anger or hate to be seen
As if by command they salute all as one
The RSM smiles, says âWelcome home sonâ.
That is beautiful