Let's get the first thing over - it's a farce.
Why do we suffer it?
Cos they know half of Britain would be banged up.
Not interested at all. Read your local horror story.
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All depends on the mood the judge is in...
Ain't that a fact.
Someone maybe fiddling or forgetting about benefits etc gets maybe a few months or suspended sentence.Rich bankers and co fiddling hundreds of millions ,walk away with major bonuses......none prosecuted...just a weak wrist slap..there !Guess who the tabloids highlight.
Some feckers robbed a dude and crowbar.
Dies eight days later.
Sentence ten - out in five.
Not right.
Get rid of manslaughter.
It's murder.
Originally Posted by velvet donkey:
Get rid of manslaughter.
It's murder.
Here in Scotland we need to get rid of the not proven verdict.
It is an historical accident that Scots law has three verdicts, guilty, not guilty and not proven.
But the effect on the accused is that he or she is either convicted or acquitted; not proven, famously called by Sir Walter Scott "that bastard verdict", has exactly the same effect as not guilty
Originally Posted by velvet donkey:
Some feckers robbed a dude and crowbar.
Dies eight days later.
Sentence ten - out in five.
Not right.
It's horrible velvet,it must feel like that loved ones lives are not worth much in law now.,i don't believe in capital punishment(mistakes) however serious vicious murderers should be in in jail for the rest of their lives.
Originally Posted by erinp:
Originally Posted by velvet donkey:
Get rid of manslaughter.
It's murder.
Here in Scotland we need to get rid of the not proven verdict.
It is an historical accident that Scots law has three verdicts, guilty, not guilty and not proven.
But the effect on the accused is that he or she is either convicted or acquitted; not proven, famously called by Sir Walter Scott "that bastard verdict", has exactly the same effect as not guilty
Agree Erin it's a cop out for jurors,get rid of it.
Originally Posted by kattymieoww:
Someone maybe fiddling or forgetting about benefits etc gets maybe a few months or suspended sentence.Rich bankers and co fiddling hundreds of millions ,walk away with major bonuses......none prosecuted...just a weak wrist slap..there !Guess who the tabloids highlight.
I have noticed the change in language. Benefit is now called hand-outs no matter if they are legitimate or not, people on benefit (including the dole) are scroungers, the destinctions are getting closer and closer. Drip, drip, drip slowly. And then we turn around in ten years and realise that we can't go to the bog without paying a fee.
true Cologne..granted there are some folk that work the system,however the majority do not and deserve the help they need without the Murdoch press calling them scroungers etc.there are millions unclaimed by older folk because they are proud and don't feel they have the right to claim what is rightfully theirs ,benefits wise.