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Originally Posted by MrsH:
Originally Posted by San:
Originally Posted by Saint:

If you had the oppertunity - would you attend Margaret Thatcher's funeral?

No but I hope that her funeral is peaceful for the sake of her family.

 

My own opinion is that I can't really understand why people would attend just to turn their backs on the coffin as it seems like a waste of time to me and I don't understand why so many of the people who have been 'partying' don't look old enough to have even been born when she was in power and are simply enjoying being disruptive and part of an 'in thing'.

I have no strong views politically and I think she did good and bad for the country but I was disgusted to see the 'celebrations' and a 4 year old singing the Ding Dong song.

My thoughts are with her family today.

 

my feelings too San 

 

No I wouldnt want to go but do have 3 Family members there today in the capacity of their jobs - hoping for a peaceful and safe event for all those involved 

 Good posts, San and Rexi.

Yogi19

The BBC seems to be in the right wing press's good books for at least the next 24 hours after becoming the broadcasting wing of the Tory Party. 

 

It will be receiving plaudits about how fair and balanced its coverage was. 

 

I blame Blair for this.  I hope the permatanned warmonger's proud of himself.  This whole exercise was all about making Blair look the magnanimous statesman and pitching New Labour as the inheritors of compassionate Thatcherism. An oxymoron if ever there was one!

 

Blair didn't bank [no pun intended] on the wheels falling off neo-liberalism and expected Labour to be sitting in government, passing right wing policies to the applause of the right wing press when she died.  He wanted to be loved by the Daily Mail brigade, yet they now hate him with a passion.

 

What a ******!

Carnelian
Originally Posted by Garage Joe:
The BBC will never be in their good books. Expect more anti Beeb material pretty soon. The Tories hate our BBC.

Yes they do.  The end game is privatisation and removing the only obstacle to to total Murdoch domination. 

 

If previous privatisations are anything to go by, they won't put it out in the market.  They will semi privatise it.  Probably keep pension liabilities with the tax payer and diverting tax funds to sustain the budget after abolishing the licence fee and letting advertisers in.  They will privatise it so that it's a good deal for shareholders and some free money for the Home Counties' Tory voters. 

 

Going by previous privatisations, five years after privatisation, it will be struggling and Murdoch will buy it up, asset strip it and repackage it as "BBC Heritage" - it will then be 'job done'.

Carnelian
Originally Posted by pirate1111:

someone made this point on twitter:

 

Amy. ‏@thisisamy_ 3h
It feels mean to laugh at Osborne crying, but then I remembered a fortnight ago he exploited the deaths of 6 kids to smear welfare claimants

Yep, he can [pretend to] cry over a selfish bitch who made self service a political creed, yet he doesn't give a flying **** about the tragic deaths of six innocent children and uses their deaths as a platform to pitch for benefits cuts.

 

the man is beneath contempt

Carnelian
Grace Dent  The Independent, Wednesday 17 April 2013

Thatcher's Funeral: The barriers and the bollards were ready but the throngs never came. . .

The view from the sofa: I’d expected a mix of Will and Kate’s wedding and Occupy St. Pauls. In the event it was as quiet as Christmas Day


No offence, Maggie, but after ten long days of national argument, as I sat down to watch your send off, I was glad to see the back of you.

If London 2012 conjured up a heady national feelgood factor, the passing of Baroness Thatcher evoked a polar opposite: malevolent ambivalence. Left-leaners have raged and hissed for a week, picking at scars from decades earlier. Perfectly lovely people are talking about “pissing on graves”:  it feels like being trapped in an echo chamber playing a very long x-rated episode of 80’s soap Brookside.

Meanwhile, the right have replied with jingoism, rose-tinted hindsight and yesteryear-style pomp. With Big Ben silenced, military strong arm flexed, antagonistic talk of “a celebration of the Falklands” and ÂĢ10m suddenly located to pay for a funeral on a scale I’m not entirely sure Mrs Thatcher even wanted. The barriers, bollards, police reinforcements were ready to cope with the whipped-up crowds at Thatcher’s send off, but the throngs didn’t come.

David Dimbleby and his colleagues on BBC1 found a multitude of polite ways to say “Blimey, it’s quiet”. On the Strand the odd random citizen seemed to be making a morning of it. Charing Cross was as quiet as Christmas Day. I suppose I’d expected a mix of Will and Kate’s wedding and Occupy St. Pauls: Union Jacks waved defiantly, city boys, bankers and home-counties mums determined to “do Maggie proud”, greeted with an abundance of Trade Union flags and the odd propelled egg. Instead, deserted streets, a muffled bell, a coffin carried in disconcerting silence.

I sat on my sofa wondering who, after Diana, Britain would turn out for en masse. Why stand on the streets to feel a collective sense of ‘history’ when one can shout on the internet? “I’m so glad I’m not watching this funeral. I’m giving Twitter a miss today!” people tweeted, several times. And how could any left-wing person really turn off the TV coverage with a cathedral so brimming with celebrity-world’s closet and out-and-proud Tories? An emotional Katherine Jenkins, Joan Collins in full Dynasty baddie mode, Dame Shirley Bassey as a temporarily demure diva. Amanda Thatcher’s reading was fiercely good. And how clever of her to wear a lot of clothes. No Pippa Middleton II for the media today. Just a calm, articulate woman nailing a big public speech.

Mourner Jeremy Clarkson scrubbed up well: tamed, suited, booted and neatly coiffed. Thatcher could receive no higher display of respect. Bernard Ingham’s eyebrows, on the other hand, roamed wild and unfettered. I’m sure Ingham is quite adamant he doesn’t want any namby-pamby grooming but if he lived under my roof he would wake up after a nap to find his face had been pruned.

As a viewer, I couldn’t become gleeful, like many did, about George Osborne crying. Who knows what deep puddle of the mind that tear came from, but something had been stirred. As a left-leaner, I’ve felt uneasy several times in the past ten days watching the actions of my left-leaning comrades. Don’t wish augmented sadness on a freshly grieving Mark and Carol Thatcher, don’t laugh at a man crying at a funeral, I’ve thought, we’re supposed to be the nice ones.

My highlight yesterday was the Right Reverend and Right Honourable Richard Chartres adding a tiny bit of humour. “Don’t touch the duck pate, it’s very fattening,” Thatcher had told him as they’d walked into lunch. It was small burst of joyfulness in a long week of woe. Joy, empathy, mutual caring. Here’s to more of that.

http://www.independent.co.uk/v...er-came-8577266.html

FM
Originally Posted by Carnelian:

The more I think about it, the more I think Osborne's 'crying' was a look-at-me, I'm the best Thatcherite in the village, gesture to the right-wing of his party and the Tory Press. 

I  noticed him checking the cameras several times, even on his way up the steps

Notice how he let the tear tracks stay on his face + not wipe them. Who does that, especially in public?

FM

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