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I will take legal advice if this goes further but I would appreciate any thoughts on this matter

 

So daughter went to Bath at the weekend with college for a football tournament, on the way back they stopped off at a Mcdonald's for some dinner and some of the other girls on another table were playing pranks on each other and one was recording it on a mobile phone. One of the girls then smacks one of those plastic tubs of sauce into my daughters face, you can see clearly on the video that my daughter wasn't aware this was going to happen, my daughter is then seen wiping her face and then she throws a tub of sauce behind her at the girl, everyones laughing and joining in the prank until daughter looks up and see's the tub she threw had hit the girl on the back but had splattered onto one of the teachers.

 

Daughter said sorry at the time and then again later on, which the teacher accepted, the teacher said they would have to explain their actions to the head when they got back to college, the girl that threw the sauce at my daughter first, was seen by the head yesterday and then a phone call was made to her parents, they said she may be kicked out of college and the police may become involved, daughter has got an appointment to see the head today and I am awaiting a call from them, I can see daughter shouldn't have retaliated but it is a gut reaction, like if someone throws a snowball at you, you throw one back.

 

I really don't think she should be kicked out of college at nearly the end of the course when it could also affect her getting into Uni, also my daughter could have been hurt when the girl threw the sauce into her face. Im not sure why the police would have to be involved, i suppose I will find out when they call me.

 

Do you think this is grounds to kick her out of college and would I have a case against them, seeing that my daughter didn't start it

 

Sorry for the long post

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From the way you have described the incident, it sounds like a bit of larking about which went a wee bit far.

I can't understand why the teacher felt the need to report the matter to the Head, as she had accepted lil Aimee's apology - unless she was afraid lil Aimee would report the other girl for assault.

To suggest going to the police is something of an over-reaction, imo. I can just see the charge sheet "causing injury by throwing tiny tub of tomato sauce". 

I'd be surprised if the girls get anything more than a stern ticking off, but if the worst happens, I'd certainly lodge an appeal.

BTW, make sure the girl who recorded the incident, doesn't delete the video, as it proves they were only larking about and it was not an aggressive action.

Yogi19

In the recording what exactly is the teacher doing while the girls are being 'so dangerous'? If she was sat there not trying to calm the situation then it's her that's at fault surely? Those girls were in her care, if she wasn't happy with how they were behaving she should have done something about it there and then if it was bad enough (in her eyes) to get them kicked out of collage!

 

Has the video been made public online? I suspect that's maybe why the teacher has taken this action, she's embarrassed by it and trying to save face 

Jen-Star

I did ask Lil Aims if they had uploaded the video anywhere and she said no, also in the video you can't see the teacher till after she has been hit with the sauce and tbh it doesn't look like she has any on her.

 

RE the police I am also wondering if they said it to the other girls parents in case we wanted to press chargers of assault, which we don't as it wasn't meant in that way, I was first assuming it was the teacher that was trying to say Lil Aims had assaulted her, still not heard anything so it might be the other girl that has got into trouble more for starting it

Aimee
Aimee I think they'll know that it wasn't your daughter who started it and understand that none of it was intended as assault. It's a bit of typical teen malarkey that's got out of hand. I too would wait for the meeting, and go from there. Copy that video to your hard drive though, just in case you need it Let us know what happens and please try not to worry too much, your daughter will have a good rep among the teachers
~Sparkling Summer~
Also- when I was I college I once got in trouble because I with a group of friends who were playing frisbee in the canteen. I wasn't in the game myself (too lazy back then) but waiting for a ride home.. One of the teachers went mad at us and took all our details. My course head called me into her office the next day and couldn't believe the story because I was a model student.. I explained what had happened and she dismissed the whole incident, she knew I wasn't a troublesome person
~Sparkling Summer~
Originally Posted by ~Sweet Summer~:
Aimee I think they'll know that it wasn't your daughter who started it and understand that none of it was intended as assault. It's a bit of typical teen malarkey that's got out of hand. I too would wait for the meeting, and go from there. Copy that video to your hard drive though, just in case you need it Let us know what happens and please try not to worry too much, your daughter will have a good rep among the teachers

Common sense prevails,alas sometimes it goes out the window these days.

kattymieoww

She's been interviewed and they say there are more disappointed with Lil Aims because she was team captain and she should have stopped any messing around where was the teachers then they have read Lil Aims twitter account and she had tweeted that they were knocking on next doors door and running off but the boys next door were doing the same (silly girl for tweeting it) I also know a teacher tweeted that he was having a stella

 

They will let her know in due course what her punishment is, they have read everyones twitter accounts and have now found out that the boys went clubbing when they should have stayed in the hotel looks like the teachers have a lot to answer to never mind the pupils

Aimee

Its an enormous overreaction Aimee  Can't imagine how a harmless play fight [ if that - and which your daughter didn't start ] is grounds for throwing her out of college or any punishment. Especially a bright student with a great attendance record.

 

Maybe the teacher worried she may be disciplined for not keeping control and portrayed herself as the victim somehow? Maybe there's some health and safety rule she's mis-applying? Anyway its ridiculous.

 

The main thing to be considered in law is if any action is considered reasonable. The school wouldn't be acting reasonably by taking it any further and certainly not by involving police. Its nonsense!

 

I feel very sorry for your daughter Aimee. It seems most unfair and putting unnecessary stress on her young shoulders when she should be concentrating on her studies.

 

FM
Originally Posted by Roger the Alien (fka noseyrosie):

Its an enormous overreaction Aimee  Can't imagine how a harmless play fight [ if that - and which your daughter didn't start ] is grounds for throwing her out of college. Especially a bright student with a great attendance record.

 

Maybe the teacher worried she may be disciplined for not keeping control and portrayed herself as the victim somehow? Maybe there's some health and safety rule she's mis-applying? Anyway its ridiculous.

 

The main thing to be considered in law is if any action is considered reasonable. The school wouldn't be acting reasonably by taking it any further and certainly not by involving police. Its nonsense!

 

I feel very sorry for your daughter Aimee. It seems most unfair and putting unnecessary stress on her young shoulders when she should be concentrating on her studies.

 

I think they will drop it eventually, seeing as most of the lads had gone out drinking, including the teachers and if they know the parents know this information then they will look very silly themselves

Aimee
Originally Posted by Aimee:
 

I think they will drop it eventually, seeing as most of the lads had gone out drinking, including the teachers and if they know the parents know this information then they will look very silly themselves

Says it all doesn't it? 

Hope nothing bad is put on your daughter's record, that would be awful 

 

If you're worried, you can get cheap legal advice from the Community Legal Advice service - probably cheaper than consulting a solicitor - the line is about 4p a min.

 

http://legaladviserfinder.just....uk/AdviserSearch.do

 

 

 

FM
Originally Posted by Roger the Alien (fka noseyrosie):
Originally Posted by Aimee:
 

I think they will drop it eventually, seeing as most of the lads had gone out drinking, including the teachers and if they know the parents know this information then they will look very silly themselves

Says it all doesn't it? 

Hope nothing bad is put on your daughter's record, that would be awful 

 

If you're worried, you can get cheap legal advice from the Community Legal Advice service - probably cheaper than consulting a solicitor - the line is about 4p a min.

 

http://legaladviserfinder.just....uk/AdviserSearch.do

 

 

 

Thanks for that

Aimee

I've not read any replies to your opening post, Aimee (no disrespect forum chums).  Stuff like this makes me so fed up with the UK - and everywhere else in general.... Kids/people arse around meaning no harm. Yeah, it's silly stuff, idiotic behaviour...but not malice intended.  Why the F this has got anything to do with the police is beyond me.

 

Gawd almighty, it comes to something when a pot of sauce is the instigation of losing a place at Uni..!

 

Aimee, I said it once before, you've raised a good 'un and for the life of me I can't see why a bit of 'fun and banter' should result in her education being put in jeopardy.  It's not her responsibility to keep her peers in line; where the hell are the teachers in all of this?

Cosmopolitan
Originally Posted by ~Cosmopolitan~:

I've not read any replies to your opening post, Aimee (no disrespect forum chums).  Stuff like this makes me so fed up with the UK - and everywhere else in general.... Kids/people arse around meaning no harm. Yeah, it's silly stuff, idiotic behaviour...but not malice intended.  Why the F this has got anything to do with the police is beyond me.

 

Gawd almighty, it comes to something when a pot of sauce is the instigation of losing a place at Uni..!

 

Aimee, I said it once before, you've raised a good 'un and for the life of me I can't see why a bit of 'fun and banter' should result in her education being put in jeopardy.  It's not her responsibility to keep her peers in line; where the hell are the teachers in all of this?

FM

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