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Cardinal Keith O'Brien, who resigned as Britain's most senior Catholic cleric

 Cardinal Keith O'Brien has admitted that his sexual conduct had at times "fallen below the standards expected of me as a priest, archbishop and cardinal

The cardinal, who was Britain's most senior Catholic cleric, stepped down from his post as Archbishop of St Andrews and Edinburgh last week, a day after three priests and a former priest made allegations of "inappropriate" behaviour against him.

In a statement issued by the Catholic Church in Scotland tonight, he apologised and asked forgiveness from those he had "offended".

"I wish to take this opportunity to admit that there have been times that my sexual conduct has fallen below the standards expected of me as a priest, archbishop and cardinal," the statement said.

http://www.sconews.co.uk/news/...the-catholic-church/

FM
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Originally Posted by erinp:

Well we are certainly in crisis for sure.

Cardinal OBrien has always been controversial ,just some days ago he spoke about Priest being able to marry ,and now we have these allegations.I find it strange that he was ordained in 1965,became an Archbishop , Cardinal .He is /was the President of Bishops he took part in the Papal conclave in 2005 (Pope Benidict) and not a word was ever uttered about any wrong doing.

 

I've just been back through the thread and found this. Indeed! Several days before these allegations there was a piece in t'Grauniad about his progressive views. It would be very easy to come up with a CT explaining how they got rid of him because he wasn't following the party line, as it were.

Garage Joe

The statement issued in full reads:

 

3 March 2013

Statement from Cardinal O'Brien

"In recent days certain allegations which have been made against me have become public. Initially, their anonymous and non-specific nature led me to contest them.

However, I wish to take this opportunity to admit that there have been times that my sexual conduct has fallen below the standards expected of me as a priest, archbishop and cardinal.

To those I have offended, I apologise and ask forgiveness.

To the Catholic Church and people of Scotland, I also apologise.

I will now spend the rest of my life in retirement. I will play no further part in the public life of the Catholic Church in Scotland."


ENDS

El Loro

This part of the statement says it all. 

 

"However, I wish to take this opportunity to admit that there have been times that my sexual conduct has fallen below the standards expected of me as a priest, archbishop and cardinal"

 

It's below those standards but in some way permissible in lower ranks of humanity?! Give me bloody strength! 

Xochi

We should accept  that the church and their  represenatives are detached from normal lives,they live in a cocoon, and they believe that their title,i.e. pastor/priest/vicar means they are decent.So they go on their kiddie fiddling excursions, whilst excluding themselves from any blame,they are hypocrites and liars and always have been and always be as long as  we carry on believing that 'the church' is the same as 'faith'.

 

The church is corrupt and has always been corrupt.

jacksonb
Originally Posted by jacksonb:

We should accept  that the church and their  represenatives are detached from normal lives,they live in a cocoon, and they believe that their title,i.e. pastor/priest/vicar means they are decent.So they go on their kiddie fiddling excursions, whilst excluding themselves from any blame,they are hypocrites and liars and always have been and always be as long as  we carry on believing that 'the church' is the same as 'faith'.

 

The church is corrupt and has always been corrupt.

yada yada yada! Where the hell have you been!!! 

Xochi
Originally Posted by Xochiquetzal:
Originally Posted by jacksonb:

We should accept  that the church and their  represenatives are detached from normal lives,they live in a cocoon, and they believe that their title,i.e. pastor/priest/vicar means they are decent.So they go on their kiddie fiddling excursions, whilst excluding themselves from any blame,they are hypocrites and liars and always have been and always be as long as  we carry on believing that 'the church' is the same as 'faith'.

 

The church is corrupt and has always been corrupt.

yada yada yada! Where the hell have you been!!! 

Mostly missing you Xochitquetlalilo.xxx

jacksonb
Originally Posted by jacksonb:
Originally Posted by Xochiquetzal:
Originally Posted by jacksonb:

We should accept  that the church and their  represenatives are detached from normal lives,they live in a cocoon, and they believe that their title,i.e. pastor/priest/vicar means they are decent.So they go on their kiddie fiddling excursions, whilst excluding themselves from any blame,they are hypocrites and liars and always have been and always be as long as  we carry on believing that 'the church' is the same as 'faith'.

 

The church is corrupt and has always been corrupt.

yada yada yada! Where the hell have you been!!! 

Mostly missing you Xochitquetlalilo.xxx

Not enough then!  Welcome back and look in now and again, yeah? 

 

OT. Yes, I agree.

Xochi

And whilst we  are on the topic , I learnt from R.E. in primary school about Christ overturning the tables of the money lenders and rip off merchants, that were plying their trade outside the places of worship.

 

And yet, take a  look at the vatican and it's wealth, and how not one of their tables has been upset, no one is turfing the pope or his enclave out , are they?

 

jacksonb
Originally Posted by cologne 1:

The Catholic clergy needs to be able to marry. That will unclench buttocks enough to look reality in the face.

They were for centuries until they changed the rules. A U.S. priest told me it wasn't about celibacy, but to prevent priests having children who'd inherit their worldly goods - which would divide up church lands and wealth.

FM
Originally Posted by Roger the Alien (fka noseyrosie):
Originally Posted by cologne 1:

The Catholic clergy needs to be able to marry. That will unclench buttocks enough to look reality in the face.

They were for centuries until they changed the rules. A U.S. priest told me it wasn't about celibacy, but to prevent priests having children who'd inherit their worldly goods - which would divide up church lands and wealth.

I only learned that recently Rosie because of the recent kerfuffle.  Astonishing but it explains such a lot. 

Xochi
Originally Posted by moonie:
Originally Posted by velvet donkey:
Originally Posted by Garage Joe:
Do priests own anything?

Gratis.

 

But my Latin's shady.

The quality of an action where the action is willingly provided without any requirement by the provider for compensation or monetary remuneration except blackmail 

FM
Originally Posted by velvet donkey:
Originally Posted by moonie:
Originally Posted by velvet donkey:
Originally Posted by Garage Joe:
Do priests own anything?

Gratis.

 

But my Latin's shady.

The quality of an action where the action is willingly provided without any requirement by the provider for compensation or monetary remuneration except blackmail 

Moonie

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