I have a school run...but will be back at 9 so I won't miss much tomorrow 
Originally Posted by Dame_Ann_Average:
Nellllllllllllllllllllllllll *drools* live link
excellent I shall watch this later
Originally Posted by Pengy:
Originally Posted by Dame_Ann_Average:
Just caught up Morning Pengy and Yogi 
Thanks for all the tweets Pengy, when do we hear the decision? I am still fuming over OP's sentence and Dewani's lack of one 
tomorrow morning I think - it starts at 9.30am their time
I'm assuming the live link will still work and the new Channel on 517 showed it too...try it on your sky box Pengy 
Originally Posted by Dame_Ann_Average:
Originally Posted by Pengy:
Originally Posted by Dame_Ann_Average:
Just caught up Morning Pengy and Yogi
Thanks for all the tweets Pengy, when do we hear the decision? I am still fuming over OP's sentence and Dewani's lack of one
tomorrow morning I think - it starts at 9.30am their time
I'm assuming the live link will still work and the new Channel on 517 showed it too...try it on your sky box Pengy
I don't have sky any more 
Originally Posted by Pengy:
I don't have sky any more
I know, I thought you still had your box and thought it might work as it's a free channel
Originally Posted by Dame_Ann_Average:
Originally Posted by Pengy:
I don't have sky any more
I know, I thought you still had your box and thought it might work as it's a free channel
I already swapped it out for my new freesat box as I understand Sky stop your box from being able to record and stuff so I just chucked it out - was carp anyway, always freezing grrrr
I really do think it's time to stop extraditing our citizens to backward, corrupt, or unpredictable states such as SA and the USA.
Originally Posted by velvet donkey:
Think I'll stick to the Hugh Masekela tribute band at Burntisland
Good idea Velvet
Right this should be fun I'm trying to watch via lappy hooked to tv and posting on my tablet - I'm a luddite so this could all go pear shape 
Pistorius's conviction appeal granted
However, Judge Masipa dismissed the sentencing appeal of Oscar Pistorius, saying she did not believe the sentence was "shockingly inappropriate".
Judge Thokozile Masipa has granted the application by the state to appeal Oscar Pistorius's conviction, but has denied the application to appeal his sentence. (AFP)
Judge Thokozile Masipa has granted the stateâs application to appeal paralympian athlete Oscar Pistoriusâs conviction.
However, she dismissed the stateâs application to appeal his sentence.
On Tuesday, Barry Roux SC for Pistorius told the court that the law had been correctly applied in the conviction and sentencing of the athlete.
Prosecutor Gerrie Nel argued that the sentence imposed on Pistorius was âshockingly inappropriateâ.
Nel said the court showed too much mercy for Pistorius, who could have foreseen that he could unlawfully kill whoever was behind the door.
Sentencing On October 21, Masipa sentenced Pistorius to five years in jail for the culpable homicide of his girlfriend Reeva Steenkamp.
He shot her dead through the locked door of the toilet in his Pretoria home on February 14 last year, apparently thinking she was an intruder.
The state filed papers last month calling for a heavier conviction and harsher sentence to be imposed on the athlete. Pistorius was sentenced to a further three years, suspended for five years, for discharging a firearm at Tashaâs restaurant in Sandton, Johannesburg, in January 2013. â Sapa
she hasn't even sat yet???? She sat very very early and I missed it so had to catch up on enca.com/oscartrial 
City Press Online â@City_Press <small class="time"> </small>
State can appeal Pistorius verdict, not sentence http://ow.ly/FEjSZ
James Grant â@CriminalLawZA <small class="time"> 2 minutes ago</small>
Cases of Seekoei 1982 AD, Nzimande 2010 SCA, and even Blom 1939 AD all now: under review - subject to further notice.
David Dadic â@DavidDadic <small class="time"> 24 seconds ago</small> Johannesburg
@CriminalLawZA in truth a great day!
SA Breaking News â@SABreakingNews <small class="time"> 1 minute ago</small>
Pistorius may be out of prison by the time appeal hearing begins: http://www.sabreakingnews.co.za/2014/12/10/oscar-pistorius-this-isnt-about-winning-its-about-justice-npa/ âĶ
she's wittering on about the fact that the views of the public are irrelevant which is fair enough
Brian O'Neil â@brian_66798 <small class="time"> 8 minutes ago</small>
If the SCA finds OP guilty of Eventualis,what will they do with his sentence? @MandyWiener
Mandy Wiener â@MandyWiener <small class="time"> 46 seconds ago</small>
State will ask for 15 years â@brian_66798: If the SCA finds OP guilty of Eventualis,what will they do with his sentence? @MandyWienerâ
they heard this early this morning not at the normal time
Barry Bateman @barrybateman · 1 hour ago
#OscarPistorius Masipa: the applicant for seeks to appeal the sentence and the conviction. BB
Barry Bateman @barrybateman · 1 hour ago
#OscarPistorius Masipa: dismisses the stateâs claim that the huge public interest in the matter is considered a special circumstance. BB
Barry Bateman @barrybateman · 1 hour ago
#OscarPistorius Masipa: the degree of public interest is irrelevant. BB
Barry Bateman @barrybateman · 1 hour ago
#OscarPistorius Masipa: dismisses defence reliance on Steenkamp family stating publicly post-sentence that it was satisfied. BB
Barry Bateman @barrybateman · 58 minutes ago
#OscarPistorius Masipa: Iâm not convinced there was a material misdirection on the imposition of sentence to it was shockingly inappropriate
Barry Bateman @barrybateman · 59 minutes ago
#OscarPistorius Masipa: has dismissed the stateâs application to appeal the sentence. BB
Barry Bateman @barrybateman · 58 minutes ago
#OscarPistorius Masipa: moves on to deal with the conviction appealâĶ BB
Barry Bateman @barrybateman · 56 minutes ago
#OscarPistorius Masipa: the main points argued by counsel was whether the state raised questions of law or questions of fact. BB
Barry Bateman @barrybateman · 55 minutes ago
#OscarPistorius Masipa: the respondent argued that the stateâs questions of law were in fact an attack on the courtâs ridings of fact. BB
Barry Bateman @barrybateman · 54 minutes ago
#OscarPistorius Masipa: Iâm persuaded that the stateâs questions are questions of law. BB
Barry Bateman @barrybateman · 54 minutes ago
BREAKING #OscarPistorius Masipa grants the state its appeal on conviction. BB
Barry Bateman @barrybateman · 52 minutes ago
#OscarPistorius this means the state will appeal the culpable homicide conviction and argue Pistorius should be convicted of murder. BB
Mandy Wiener @MandyWiener · 1 hour ago
#OscarPistorius Masipa acknowledges several times that this is not an easy question for her to decide.
Mandy Wiener @MandyWiener · 1 hour ago
#OscarPistorius Masipa acknowledges several times that this is not an easy question for her to decide.
so she wimped out 
Mandy Wiener @MandyWiener · 1 hour ago
#OscarPistorius Masipa now addressing the application for leave to appeal the conviction. This is the big fact vs law argument.
Mandy Wiener @MandyWiener · 1 hour ago
#OscarPistorius Judge Masipa dismisses prosecutions bid to appeal the sentence.
Mandy Wiener @MandyWiener · 1 hour ago
#OscarPistorius Masipa says she is not convinced that sentence is shockingly inappropriate and application on sentence can't succeed.
looks like this will be going to the supreme court in Bloemfontain if the NPA can find the money but Eish! knowing how SA is fixed these days what with load shedding can't see it happening
Mandy Wiener @MandyWiener · 32 minutes ago
#OscarPistorius NPA says it must still think about whether or not it will petition SCA on sentence.
Mandy Wiener @MandyWiener · 40 minutes ago
#OscarPistorius Theoretically, there could be a situation that Oscar is out on correctional supervision while the appeal is being heard.
Mandy Wiener @MandyWiener · 41 minutes ago
#OscarPistorius Despite being ordered to pay costs on sentencing bid, the NPA will view this as a success. Can now appeal the conviction.
Mandy Wiener @MandyWiener · 42 minutes ago
#OscarPistorius A summary - The NPA can appeal Oscar's conviction but it cannot appeal his sentence. It can petition the SCA on sentence.
David Smith @SmithInAfrica · 51 minutes ago
Spoke to Henke #Pistorius who said: "I don't want to say anything before it's decided, but it shouldn't have gone this far."
Cos OP is broke?
Mandy Wiener @MandyWiener · 56 minutes ago
#OscarPistorius Masipa now going through the questions of law that the SCA must look at - specifically dolus eventualis.
Mandy Wiener @MandyWiener · 58 minutes ago
BREAKING Masipa grants application to appeal #OscarPistorius conviction.
Mandy Wiener @MandyWiener · 58 minutes ago
#OscarPistorius Masipa: I cannot say that the prospects of success at the Supreme Court of Appeal are remote.
Mandy Wiener @MandyWiener · 58 minutes ago
#OscarPistorius Masipa: Having perused the application .. I have been persuaded that the questions are questions of law.
I'm lost and baffled...but thank you Pengy. If they can't appeal the sentence what happens if he is found guilty of murder? She was nobbled, or both women judges are plain stupid...he had illegal ammo in his safe and he's not guilty 
Originally Posted by Dame_Ann_Average:
I'm lost and baffled...but thank you Pengy. If they can't appeal the sentence what happens if he is found guilty of murder? She was nobbled, or both women judges are plain stupid...he had illegal ammo in his safe and he's not guilty
doesn't make sense does it
I think it for sure will be dealt with by the supreme court as I truly believe Masipa was out of her depth
Originally Posted by Pengy:
doesn't make sense does it
I think it for sure will be dealt with by the supreme court as I truly believe Masipa was out of her depth
Just been reading the other place...if they find him guilty of murder the sentence will automatically go to 15 years less time served..Nel could also ask the Supreme Court to look at the ammo and sentence charges, but a few seem to think he won't...
Originally Posted by Dame_Ann_Average:
Originally Posted by Pengy:
doesn't make sense does it
I think it for sure will be dealt with by the supreme court as I truly believe Masipa was out of her depth
Just been reading the other place...if they find him guilty of murder the sentence will automatically go to 15 years less time served..Nel could also ask the Supreme Court to look at the ammo and sentence charges, but a few seem to think he won't...
sometimes you have to lose a battle to win a war - he doesn't seem to be getting anywhere with the ammo charge so I think in the grand scheme of things he'd be wise to let that one drop and concentrate on the murder charge as for me, it's the most important
I agree Pengy, whoever was behind that door posed no threat and had no chance of escape. It was the strangest thing to listen to Masipa take bits of his lies numerous defences and mash them together to let him away with what will/would be 10 months I really do hope they throw her findings out the window.
Originally Posted by Dame_Ann_Average:
I agree Pengy, whoever was behind that door posed no threat and had no chance of escape. It was the strangest thing to listen to Masipa take bits of his lies numerous defences and mash them together to let him away with what will/would be 10 months I really do hope they throw her findings out the window.
I hope they throw her findings out as well but with SA you never know and I'm sure OPs family while not paying Barry's bill, might bung a few rand to ensure he gets off on appeal
Originally Posted by Pengy:
I hope they throw her findings out as well but with SA you never know and I'm sure OPs family while not paying Barry's bill, might bung a few rand to ensure he gets off on appeal
I'm sure you they will try, certainly are a strange family
The Tie is on sky news 
"#OscarPistorius Masipa: I cannot say that the prospects of success at the Supreme Court of Appeal are remote."
Is that bordering on an admission that she got it wrong?
Originally Posted by Yogi19:
"#OscarPistorius Masipa: I cannot say that the prospects of success at the Supreme Court of Appeal are remote."
Is that bordering on an admission that she got it wrong?
think that's what we all thought Yogi
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-33049312
Oscar Pistorius will be released on probation by 21 August after a recommendation from South Africa's correctional services department.
The Olympic athlete was jailed for five years in 2014 for the culpable homicide of his girlfriend Reeva Steenkamp.
Under South African law he is eligible for release under "correctional supervision" having served a sixth of his sentence.
A state appeal against his acquittal on murder charges is due in November.
This thread reminds me of Pengy's absence b.t.w. .Wish she was here... and hope she's well wherever she is.
Pleeeeeeeeeeease come back, oh waddling one! 
Seems odd to let him out in August when the appeal will happen in November. Why not wait for the result of that?
Originally Posted by Roger the Alien:
This thread reminds me of Pengy's absence b.t.w. .Wish she was here... and hope she's well wherever she is.
Pleeeeeeeeeeease come back, oh waddling one!
She's on FB and seems ok, I'll tell her you was asking after her
Originally Posted by Aimee:
Originally Posted by Roger the Alien:
This thread reminds me of Pengy's absence b.t.w. .Wish she was here... and hope she's well wherever she is.
Pleeeeeeeeeeease come back, oh waddling one!
She's on FB and seems ok, I'll tell her you was asking after her
Aww Aimee That means a lot thanks Hope she is indeed ok?
Originally Posted by Roger the Alien:
Originally Posted by Aimee:
Originally Posted by Roger the Alien:
This thread reminds me of Pengy's absence b.t.w. .Wish she was here... and hope she's well wherever she is.
Pleeeeeeeeeeease come back, oh waddling one!
She's on FB and seems ok, I'll tell her you was asking after her
Aww Aimee That means a lot thanks Hope she is indeed ok?
Just done it for you x
Originally Posted by Aimee:
Originally Posted by Roger the Alien:
Originally Posted by Aimee:
Originally Posted by Roger the Alien:
This thread reminds me of Pengy's absence b.t.w. .Wish she was here... and hope she's well wherever she is.
Pleeeeeeeeeeease come back, oh waddling one!
She's on FB and seems ok, I'll tell her you was asking after her
Aww Aimee That means a lot thanks Hope she is indeed ok?
Just done it for you x
She says she misses a lot of people from here and she wishes you well
Originally Posted by Baz:
I think it's disgusting that they are letting him out !!
Originally Posted by Aimee:
Originally Posted by Roger the Alien:
Originally Posted by Aimee:
Originally Posted by Roger the Alien:
This thread reminds me of Pengy's absence b.t.w. .Wish she was here... and hope she's well wherever she is.
Pleeeeeeeeeeease come back, oh waddling one!
She's on FB and seems ok, I'll tell her you was asking after her
Aww Aimee That means a lot thanks Hope she is indeed ok?
Just done it for you x
Thanks loads Aimee
And thanks Dame for the message from Pengles