Fair point but common sense comes into it and in all the interviews i've seen he appears alert and 'switched on'.
Even if he did these terrible things in a drug addled stupor wouldn't he 'come to' and realise the risk?
Thankfully (i suppose) i cannot get my head round his thinking
I'm no further forward.
It just beggars belief that he thought he was safe
I'm not so sure that "thinking he was safe" was on his mind. I think that he is an individual with a serious problem, his view of the world would looked extremely wrong to us, but to him it may not be the case.
We have to be careful not to assume he thinks in the same way we do.
Therefore the two mothers think the same way as him too then 
I'm not sure it's black and white, there may be degrees to this (a psychologist would be able to put up a much better explanation than me).
But clearly the mothers don't have the boundaries the vast majority of people do. I also wonder if drug taking made it slightly easier for them the sink to the levels of depravity they did.
For me the sentencing should be a lot harsher. I think anyone involved in this type of sickening act should start with a minimum sentence of 50 years before parole is even considered. After all they could have potentially destroyed lives before they had even begun.
I say put them all on an island somewhere far far away but I know we can't do that so the next best thing is for them to end their lives in jail
I have often advocated that we (UK) find an island off the mainland, build an Alcatraz style prison and move as many of the high risk prisoners there that we can. If the distance to the mainland is far enough, escape becomes very difficult.
Fair point but common sense comes into it and in all the interviews i've seen he appears alert and 'switched on'.
Even if he did these terrible things in a drug addled stupor wouldn't he 'come to' and realise the risk?
Thankfully (i suppose) i cannot get my head round his thinking
The psychopath night on C4 recently was very good at pointing out that in the case of a psychopath they can come across as very charming (amongst other traits). I wonder if similar types of "internal" mechanisms are at work in the mind of a child abuser.
I find it plausible that part of his makeup may be that he has a perceived or real level of intelligence which to us would make us question his actions but to him it is one element of his psychological make-up.
Maybe what we see as hugely wreckless
He sees as daring and exciting?
Maybe what we see as hugely wreckless
He sees as daring and exciting?
That's what EC's saying I think. It's in their psyche (sp)
Think i got it now.
He's thrown away so much - his career, freedom, reputation.
HMV have removed Lost prophets CD's from the shelves
Think i got it now.
He's thrown away so much - his career, freedom, reputation.
HMV have removed Lost prophets CD's from the shelves
I wonder whether the other members of the band had any inkling?
They say not but its obvious they knew about drug taking - from interviews i've seen
Maybe what we see as hugely wreckless
He sees as daring and exciting?
That's what EC's saying I think. It's in their psyche (sp)
Yes, pretty much Sprout.
I suppose that's as far as it went with them then. He, (maybe they too did the drugs) and no one knew any different 
The media have dropped a clanger though. I read that when they show news footage of him or updates they use his music over the news item.
Apparently he has made over ÂĢ100K in royalties 
The media have dropped a clanger though. I read that when they show news footage of him or updates they use his music over the news item.
Apparently he has made over ÂĢ100K in royalties
He should have it taken seized and given to charity
Gary Glitter makes a fortune from American football using his music without knowing who he is.
I guess it could be argued why should the other Lost Prophets lose earnings - but if they get royalties - so will Ian Watkins.
Will he ever be released to any sort of free life?
Walk on a beach? Eat in a restuarant?
The media have dropped a clanger though. I read that when they show news footage of him or updates they use his music over the news item.
Apparently he has made over ÂĢ100K in royalties
He should have it taken seized and given to charity
It should be seized and given to support groups for the very people who have suffered the kind of things he has done.
However I asked about this and unlike say drug dealing, this money is not gained through the proceeds of crime therefore I don't think it can be touched. Although he may need it to buy his protection inside.
The media have dropped a clanger though. I read that when they show news footage of him or updates they use his music over the news item.
Apparently he has made over ÂĢ100K in royalties
He should have it taken seized and given to charity
It should be seized and given to support groups for the very people who have suffered the kind of things he has done.
However I asked about this and unlike say drug dealing, this money is not gained through the proceeds of crime therefore I don't think it can be touched. Although he may need it to buy his protection inside.
Wouldn't have to if he was put in solitary
Wouldn't have to if he was put in solitary
he will be on a wing for 'special prisoners' he will have his own guard and have more than the Joe Bloggs serving time for petty crimes, trust me
Wouldn't have to if he was put in solitary
he will be on a wing for 'special prisoners' he will have his own guard and have more than the Joe Bloggs serving time for petty crimes, trust me
Yup
Wouldn't have to if he was put in solitary
he will be on a wing for 'special prisoners' he will have his own guard and have more than the Joe Bloggs serving time for petty crimes, trust me
justice right there
How would anyone with common sense (as he seemed to have) think that?
Arrogance. Same as Jimmy Saville.
Apparently HMV have removed all LostProphets CD's from their shelves
Apparently HMV have removed all LostProphets CD's from their shelves
Not that I have have any interest in them, but I will have a look tomorrow to see if they have done so in mine. Feel a tad sorry for the band members who are not involved and are being punished for his depravity!
