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good to hear they have started both criminal and civil proceedings against, the photographer and the editors who publish the pics.

 

i don't understand why some  fm's  find it hard to believe the couple are as pissed off as they say. it, for me is all about consent, there was none, the pics aren't in the national interest, they shouldn't have been taken nor should they have been published. a criminal case if it goes ahead could result in a  a year in the slammer for the photographer and the editor.

 

good.

jacksonb
Originally Posted by Carnelian:
Originally Posted by Blizz'ard:

The fines for invasion of privacy, should be for the total takings for that publication, as well as criminal prosecution of the photographer.

 

They'd soon stop doing it, or the shareholders would get rid of them, sharpish.

Isn't that a bit harsh for the people who work for it and have no say in its editorial content?

 

I'm still less than convinced that she's as bothered as is claimed. 

 

I can think of many worse things our press has done than embarrass royalty a bit.

As it stands, they can break the law and pay a fine, with hardly a dent on their profits, so they carry on.

 

If the fine was equal to their total takings for that particular publication, not only would their profits be eaten up, but some of their operating costs, affecting their overall profits for the year. No editor would think it wise to publish and be damned. No shareholder, or owner, would be happy to be personally paying to titillate the public.

 

I'd love to think you were right about her not being that bothered, but I'd bet that she is mortified. I happily sunbathe topless, because I don't want stupid white triangles on my chest, but the thought of some creep selling stolen shots and the whole world discussing my breasts would make me very angry. It's a violation, pure and simple. 

Blizz'ard

Lawyers for the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge have begun a bid in a French court to stop the sale and distribution of topless pictures of the duchess.


Their lawyer called for French magazine Closer to hand over the digital originals or face a large daily fine, during a hearing in Nanterre, Paris.

 

A lawyer for Closer claimed the couple's reaction was disproportionate.

 

Aurelien Hamel, the French lawyer representing Prince William and Catherine, was first to speak when the civil action began, shortly after 17:00 BST.

 

Mr Hamel told the court that the scenes captured were intimate and personal, with no place on the front page of a magazine.

 

He said the couple could not have known they were being photographed, adding it would only have been possible to see them with a long lens.

 

He said that if the original digital images were not handed, the company that owns Closer should face a fine of 10,000 euros (ÂĢ8,000) for each day of non-compliance.

 

In response, Delphine Pando, representing Closer, said that topless photographs in general were no longer considered shocking in modern society.

 

Under French law, the damages related to legal proceedings could run into tens of thousands of euros and, in theory, the magazine editor and photographer could be sent to jail for a year.

 

She has already defended publication, insisting the photos were not the least bit shocking, and has suggested that she has more intimate photos not yet published.

 

 A palace spokeswoman said: "We can confirm that a criminal complaint is to be made to the French Prosecution Department.

 

"It concerns the taking of photographs of the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge whilst on holiday and the publication of those photographs in breach of their privacy."



http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-19620164#TWEET229888

MrsH
Originally Posted by MrsH:

Lawyers for the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge have begun a bid in a French court to stop the sale and distribution of topless pictures of the duchess.


Their lawyer called for French magazine Closer to hand over the digital originals or face a large daily fine, during a hearing in Nanterre, Paris.

 

A lawyer for Closer claimed the couple's reaction was disproportionate.

 

Aurelien Hamel, the French lawyer representing Prince William and Catherine, was first to speak when the civil action began, shortly after 17:00 BST.

 

Mr Hamel told the court that the scenes captured were intimate and personal, with no place on the front page of a magazine.

 

He said the couple could not have known they were being photographed, adding it would only have been possible to see them with a long lens.

 

He said that if the original digital images were not handed, the company that owns Closer should face a fine of 10,000 euros (ÂĢ8,000) for each day of non-compliance.

 

In response, Delphine Pando, representing Closer, said that topless photographs in general were no longer considered shocking in modern society.

 

Under French law, the damages related to legal proceedings could run into tens of thousands of euros and, in theory, the magazine editor and photographer could be sent to jail for a year.

 

She has already defended publication, insisting the photos were not the least bit shocking, and has suggested that she has more intimate photos not yet published.

 

 A palace spokeswoman said: "We can confirm that a criminal complaint is to be made to the French Prosecution Department.

 

"It concerns the taking of photographs of the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge whilst on holiday and the publication of those photographs in breach of their privacy."



http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-19620164#TWEET229888

Does she really think that the 'shock value' is at the heart of this?

Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing

The French courts go through this kind of procedure hundreds of times a year. Because of the strict privacy rules, celebrities are constantly seeking injunctions to stop photographs of themselves being published.

 

Some make quite a good living out of the damages they can claim. This hearing was different only because of the identity of the plaintiffs, and the huge press contingent mobilised for the occasion.

 

Watched by a good 50 hacks, the three judges - one woman and two men - sat solemnly for an hour, listening to the arguments put forward by the two sides.

 

For the royal lawyer, it was a flagrant invasion of the right to a private existence.

 

For the magazine, the princess was visible from a public road - so the invasion was only relative.

 

The judges will give their ruling on this civil case at noon on Tuesday. And after that a whole new chapter begins, as the criminal case against 'persons unnamed' rolls into action.

 

MrsH
Originally Posted by MrsH:

Lawyers for the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge have begun a bid in a French court to stop the sale and distribution of topless pictures of the duchess.


Their lawyer called for French magazine Closer to hand over the digital originals or face a large daily fine, during a hearing in Nanterre, Paris.

 

A lawyer for Closer claimed the couple's reaction was disproportionate.

 

Aurelien Hamel, the French lawyer representing Prince William and Catherine, was first to speak when the civil action began, shortly after 17:00 BST.

 

Mr Hamel told the court that the scenes captured were intimate and personal, with no place on the front page of a magazine.

 

He said the couple could not have known they were being photographed, adding it would only have been possible to see them with a long lens.

 

He said that if the original digital images were not handed, the company that owns Closer should face a fine of 10,000 euros (ÂĢ8,000) for each day of non-compliance.

 

In response, Delphine Pando, representing Closer, said that topless photographs in general were no longer considered shocking in modern society.

 

Under French law, the damages related to legal proceedings could run into tens of thousands of euros and, in theory, the magazine editor and photographer could be sent to jail for a year.

 

She has already defended publication, insisting the photos were not the least bit shocking, and has suggested that she has more intimate photos not yet published.

 

 A palace spokeswoman said: "We can confirm that a criminal complaint is to be made to the French Prosecution Department.

 

"It concerns the taking of photographs of the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge whilst on holiday and the publication of those photographs in breach of their privacy."



http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-19620164#TWEET229888

FM
Originally Posted by jacksonb:

good to hear they have started both criminal and civil proceedings against, the photographer and the editors who publish the pics.

 

i don't understand why some  fm's  find it hard to believe the couple are as pissed off as they say. it, for me is all about consent, there was none, the pics aren't in the national interest, they shouldn't have been taken nor should they have been published. a criminal case if it goes ahead could result in a  a year in the slammer for the photographer and the editor.

 

good.

Agreed

FM
Originally Posted by suzybean:
Originally Posted by kattymieoww:

Gawd I'm fed up with it  all now anyway,just watched some footage on CH4 about Syria and the bombing of civilians,now that's  something to get outraged about.

I can multi-task outrage Katty. To be honest, I'm more incredulous and depressed about what's happening in Syria than outraged,

No ,I'm still pretty outraged by it.They showed a young girl  with most of her family killed etc.poor young girl,outraged  is a good enough word , amongst many others.

kattymieoww
Originally Posted by kattymieoww:
Originally Posted by suzybean:
Originally Posted by kattymieoww:

Gawd I'm fed up with it  all now anyway,just watched some footage on CH4 about Syria and the bombing of civilians,now that's  something to get outraged about.

I can multi-task outrage Katty. To be honest, I'm more incredulous and depressed about what's happening in Syria than outraged,

No ,I'm still pretty outraged by it.They showed a young girl  with most of her family killed etc.poor young girl,outraged  is a good enough word , amongst many others.

I only start raging when I can get my head round things. Like I said incredulity, and I'll add futility are my over riding feelings right now.

suzybean
Originally Posted by kattymieoww:
Originally Posted by suzybean:
Originally Posted by kattymieoww:

Gawd I'm fed up with it  all now anyway,just watched some footage on CH4 about Syria and the bombing of civilians,now that's  something to get outraged about.

I can multi-task outrage Katty. To be honest, I'm more incredulous and depressed about what's happening in Syria than outraged,

No ,I'm still pretty outraged by it.They showed a young girl  with most of her family killed etc.poor young girl,outraged  is a good enough word , amongst many others.

Now this is news worthy!

slimfern
Originally Posted by slimfern:
Originally Posted by kattymieoww:
Originally Posted by suzybean:
Originally Posted by kattymieoww:

Gawd I'm fed up with it  all now anyway,just watched some footage on CH4 about Syria and the bombing of civilians,now that's  something to get outraged about.

I can multi-task outrage Katty. To be honest, I'm more incredulous and depressed about what's happening in Syria than outraged,

No ,I'm still pretty outraged by it.They showed a young girl  with most of her family killed etc.poor young girl,outraged  is a good enough word , amongst many others.

Now this is news worthy!

and them lady cops murdered today

im not a fan of cops but that was f*ckin terrible

pirate1111
Originally Posted by pirate1111:
Originally Posted by slimfern:
Originally Posted by kattymieoww:
Originally Posted by suzybean:
Originally Posted by kattymieoww:

Gawd I'm fed up with it  all now anyway,just watched some footage on CH4 about Syria and the bombing of civilians,now that's  something to get outraged about.

I can multi-task outrage Katty. To be honest, I'm more incredulous and depressed about what's happening in Syria than outraged,

No ,I'm still pretty outraged by it.They showed a young girl  with most of her family killed etc.poor young girl,outraged  is a good enough word , amongst many others.

Now this is news worthy!

and them lady cops murdered today

im not a fan of cops but that was f*ckin terrible

Absolutely....just down the road from us too....appalling! 

slimfern
Originally Posted by erinp:
Originally Posted by slimfern:

She should have known better !

 

Not like it's the first time....for any of them! 

I do wonder what would have happened if they(Kate/Wil) had just ignored it .

So she is showing her breasts....big deal....am sure they are as pert as most 20 something...before having children 

Really isn't worthy of headline news imho....page three is full of em! 

Beggars belief that they still don't get that trash paps will get their kicks however....so shouldn't they wise up & just not go nude! or let & let live! this is the 21st century!

slimfern
Originally Posted by slimfern:
Originally Posted by erinp:
Originally Posted by slimfern:

She should have known better !

 

Not like it's the first time....for any of them! 

I do wonder what would have happened if they(Kate/Wil) had just ignored it .

So she is showing her breasts....big deal....am sure they are as pert as most 20 something...before having children 

Really isn't worthy of headline news imho....page three is full of em! 

Beggars belief that they still don't get that trash paps will get their kicks however....so shouldn't they wise up & just not go nude! or let & let live! this is the 21st century!

I agree,all the fuss created more interest.

FM
Originally Posted by pirate1111:
Originally Posted by Garage Joe:
One can imagine that been the view of F. Wit Sun readers, but the slatterns therein give their consent to share such images.

i can honestly say i dont understand that

im thick

I'm thick but for once I got it first time. .my one brain cell must have woken up for a minute

 

[failed both Eng lang and Eng Lit O level. . got an E in both. .probably a pass nowadays. .*runs*]

 

 

oh and I agree with GJ

Mount Olympus *Olly*

 

so .. we have had topless and overnight we nearly had knickergate  

 

with the paps at the ready if the dress had blown up any higher   something I believe that happened to the Queen many years ago and an SOS sent to get someone to follow the photographer and confiscate his camera 

 

I love Kate and loved the look on her face when she emerged after a two hour stopover to board again wearing jeans and top .... up yours was written all over her face 

MrsH

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