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the new meds our dog is on are really expensive...   the vet asked us if we wanted to have a look on the internet to see if we could find it cheaper (than the ÂĢ150 a month he had managed to find them at).    Were were a bit shocked & asked him if that was a good idea, considering the amount of fake drugs on the internet, & he conceded we were probably right.

 

The ÂĢ150 he had found was cheaper than the ÂĢ225 from their normal supplier, so I was still a bit concerned..   til he explained they were from the manufacturer but they had been intended for Greece (the packaging is all in Greek), but the supplier had cancelled their order.

 

(these drugs are human drugs, and are new and still under patent - hence the cost)

 

 

anyways...     this vet is our referral vet & they are really good and don't have big mark ups anyway (Frontline is ÂĢ10 cheaper with them than with our normal vet)..   If it were me I would find out the average cost of the stuff from a few vets..   and then you know if the ÂĢ14 ones are too good to be true.

 

Dirtyprettygirlthing
Originally Posted by Dirtyprettygirlthing:

the new meds our dog is on are really expensive...   the vet asked us if we wanted to have a look on the internet to see if we could find it cheaper (than the ÂĢ150 a month he had managed to find them at).    Were were a bit shocked & asked him if that was a good idea, considering the amount of fake drugs on the internet, & he conceded we were probably right.

 

The ÂĢ150 he had found was cheaper than the ÂĢ225 from their normal supplier, so I was still a bit concerned..   til he explained they were from the manufacturer but they had been intended for Greece (the packaging is all in Greek), but the supplier had cancelled their order.

 

(these drugs are human drugs, and are new and still under patent - hence the cost)

 

 

anyways...     this vet is our referral vet & they are really good and don't have big mark ups anyway (Frontline is ÂĢ10 cheaper with them than with our normal vet)..   If it were me I would find out the average cost of the stuff from a few vets..   and then you know if the ÂĢ14 ones are too good to be true.

 

Aww, I do feel sorry for your dogs, but does that mean humans in Greece are being denied drugs they need? 

Blizz'ard
Originally Posted by Blizz'ard:
 

 

Aww, I do feel sorry for your dogs, but does that mean humans in Greece are being denied drugs they need? 

 

I have no idea what the score is...    I did hear that Greece had a load of meds that were intended to be shipped out to countries in need, but cos of their current economic problems these meds were now being kept for their own use (which is a no brainer really)

 

AJ's meds are a new type of drug for arthritis...   they work by modifying the immune system response (as opposed to suppressing it... we tried this & its failed, or attacking the effect of the autoimmune attack with anti-inflammatories e.g. steroids..  AJ is on steroids.. but the dose it is taking to keep his condition at bay is too high for a continued therapeutic dose).

 

AJs condition should be curable (as opposed to just manageable)..   normally where steroids & then immunosuppressants have failed to get rid of it the next line of treatment is the use of traditional chemotherapy drugs..     This drug has been trialed on ten dogs with his condition...    it showed to be effective in 8, the results in the other 2 were inconclusive because of other meds those dogs were on.

 

I am not sure how widespread the use of this drug is in humans (its called arava leflunomide)  there has never been any mention of it to my Mum who has suffered with Rheumatoid Arthritis for years (though ironically not anymore...  the megasteroids she is now taking to keep her brain tumour under control has irradicated the arthritis...  bless her... she has never been so nimble)..   

 

anyways...  I assume at worst what has happened is that the Greek medics have decided to shelve plans to try out this expensive patented new drug in favour of cheaper, non patented treatments.

 

TBH..  when you read the list of possible side effects, they are probably better off.    I was shitting it when AJ first started taking them..   but luckily his liver is working fine..   and he seems to have escaped the side effects.

 

 

I do feel for the people of Greece though Blizzie  

 

Dirtyprettygirlthing
Originally Posted by Dirtyprettygirlthing:
 

 

I have no idea what the score is...    I did hear that Greece had a load of meds that were intended to be shipped out to countries in need, but cos of their current economic problems these meds were now being kept for their own use (which is a no brainer really)

 

AJ's meds are a new type of drug for arthritis...   they work by modifying the immune system response (as opposed to suppressing it... we tried this & its failed, or attacking the effect of the autoimmune attack with anti-inflammatories e.g. steroids..  AJ is on steroids.. but the dose it is taking to keep his condition at bay is too high for a continued therapeutic dose).

 

AJs condition should be curable (as opposed to just manageable)..   normally where steroids & then immunosuppressants have failed to get rid of it the next line of treatment is the use of traditional chemotherapy drugs..     This drug has been trialed on ten dogs with his condition...    it showed to be effective in 8, the results in the other 2 were inconclusive because of other meds those dogs were on.

 

I am not sure how widespread the use of this drug is in humans (its called arava leflunomide)  there has never been any mention of it to my Mum who has suffered with Rheumatoid Arthritis for years (though ironically not anymore...  the megasteroids she is now taking to keep her brain tumour under control has irradicated the arthritis...  bless her... she has never been so nimble)..   

 

anyways...  I assume at worst what has happened is that the Greek medics have decided to shelve plans to try out this expensive patented new drug in favour of cheaper, non patented treatments.

 

TBH..  when you read the list of possible side effects, they are probably better off.    I was shitting it when AJ first started taking them..   but luckily his liver is working fine..   and he seems to have escaped the side effects.

 

 

I do feel for the people of Greece though Blizzie  

 

It sounds hopeful, worth a try.

 

Sorry to hear of all your troubles, Ditty.

I'm thinking of you. 

Blizz'ard
Originally Posted by Blizz'ard:
 

It sounds hopeful, worth a try.

 

Sorry to hear of all your troubles, Ditty.

I'm thinking of you. 

Ta Blizz..    things are ok at the moment (we have learned to live on a day to day basis)..   she's well at the moment, in fact she says she feels better than she has in years, and she looks ten years younger (that's the steroids apparently).   Anyways, she has just completed a course radiotherapy, and is halfway through her first cycle of chemotherapy.    I am not privy to any precise information (my father has forbidden any talk of timescales)..   but I am cautiously hopeful she might actually still be with us at Christmas. 

 

In the meantime she is enjoying life & enjoying all the fuss we are all making of her. 

 

And the rest of us are gradually learning to cope & coming to terms with things.  I ain't gonna moan now...   right now things are ok. 

 

Could do with the bloody dog sorting himself out though...   we've been going through this with him for a year now.   Plus my Mum ends up worrying about my dog...  (& weirdly worrying about me being upset about my dog..   which is hard to know how to convince her I am not worrying about him, without saying its cos I spend every minute of every day worrying about her)

 

and enough waffling from me  (starting to get all space cadet now..    definitely sleep deprived..   ITS SO BLOODY HUMID!!!   I hardly slept last night & its no better tonight 

 

Dirtyprettygirlthing
Originally Posted by Soozy Woo:

A friend  of mine gives his Cavalier Spaniel a Piriton tablet a day - doesn't seem to harm him and has helped with his allergies.

AJ is allergic to bee stings...     we have to give him piriton if he's stung (before legging it down the vets, luckily he has only been stung once, unlikely to be stung this year cos the bee is definitely faster )

 

Vets instructions were "with normal piriton you double the dose you would give a human, of equivalent body weight"    Dogs metabolise it faster than we do apparently

Dirtyprettygirlthing

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