sounds like she got off to a bad start from the get go.

Me too Aimee.  Some poor kids have a new 'uncle' every other month.  I was single when I had master C and it was something I promised myself I would never do.  Mr C was the first boyfriend that Master C ever met and he was almost 4 by then.

This case is just getting more and more ghoulish.  That poor kid.  The grandmother?  Blimey.  Have there been any sightings of the missing mother yet?

Cinds.. the police have blamed 'human error' for not finding the body sooner and say they have apologised to her mother, so it sounds like they know where she is.    

Ahhh right, thanks Kaffy.

I still think it's a bit weird that she 'disappeared' - does make you wonder what she might have known or suspected.

Very odd indeed Kaffy.  Maybe the police don't know where she is and the apology was an attempt to flush her out of her hiding place.

The police have charged Stewart Hazell now and released the grandmother and neighbour on bail.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-19221851

It will be a relief to the blood relatives to know the Gran wasn't involved. How angry must they all feel that someone in their midst could do such a horrendous thing

They've only been released on bail YR, they haven't been cleared of the suspicion of complicity yet.

Seemingly the neighbour lied about seeing the girl leave the house and walking down the path,I  think the gran has covered up too.Horrible case all round.

Oh right Fluffy. Maybe I'm being naieve but I still find it hard to be believe she'd be involved. I haven't got grandchildren but have lost count over the years when I've heard grandparents say that it's a special relationship, different to being a parent. I've asked  more than few times what makes it so different and they find it hard to explain, so I still don't know as I've not experienced it. If the neighbour was involved I could accept that more easily as it's not the same bond. With all things time will tell, as long as there's justice for the tragic loss of a child is what's important.

The closest I can explain the way I feel about my grandchildren is that although I love them as much as my children, I never get cross with them. I simply never have an argument with them. I've been through it all with myself as a youngster, then with my children and it's easy to dismiss practically anything as a normal prossess of growing up. Does that make any sense?

The mother of Tia Sharp has paid a visit to the site where hundreds of floral tributes have been left for the murdered schoolgirl, whose step-grandfather has been charged with her killing.

I'm nearer now to understanding it than I was lol. You've helped me think along the lines of....by the time parents have brought up their children they've learnt a lot and been through a lot. So by the time grandchildren come along all they've learnt can come into play and there's more understanding or tolerance of their behaviour at different stages from the baby years onwards. Then of course there's one thing I've heard said many times is that grandchildren can be given back to the parents if/when it gets a bit...umm, testing? lol 

I never want to give mine back TBH - they've been here most of the day running me ragged with a bouncy castle outside. I always feel a bit sad when they've gone.

I never understand that saying at least you can give them back. I want to keep mine 

My nephew works for the same firm as one of Tias Uncles .......apparently last Monday my nephew said 'I'm sorry to hear about your niece being missing'.

He apparently replied (something like) 'She probably had too many alcopops and was frightened of going home'

All very strange - I wonder if drugs were involved - maybe she got hold of some of her grandads stuff and OD'd. Who knows?

The nans b'friend has just been charged with murder....

Body had been wrapped in a bed sheet and placed in the loft.

To think  that he and the Gran slept in that house knowing what they knew.

Hazell appeared via video link to hear the charge ,no plea entered.

Hazell has been transferred to Belmarsh prison and due to appear in court next Monday.

Not a keen advocate of prison justice but I'll make an exception in his case..

OMG,the poor wee darling,....we don't know exactly what the gran knew granted but surely in this weather especially decomposition would have set in, how could she not have noticed that.

He's all yours Dodgy Dave.

you would also have thought those searching for her who have been in and out of that house would have noticed a smell as well 

On the news earlier, it said the body was in a black plastic bag and then wrapped in a sheet.... if the bag was sealed it would explain the lack of odour in the house. 

true enough she wouldn't have decomposed enough but usually at this stage there are flies and I thought the Sky news reporter said when they found her body her limbs were exposed.  I have a feeling the police didn't even check the loft 

It's awful Pengy...human error  Downright incompetence in my opinion 

More information coming out. Poor Tia bruised and suffocated. Its just awful. This poor girl was failed by so many. 
R.I.P Tia