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In a bold salute to Dave Javu can I mention again that the non elected PM material is a red herring. Dave has just as much right to be boss as Gordon did. My late Dad said that his generation never complained about Churchill being unelected nor did they remark on his personal habits or mental state. Meanwhile the Tories have shut doon wor tank works.
Garage Joe
Originally Posted by Baz:
Make that all parties ..... Very few flat cap politicians nowadays


It's true that it's very hard to distinguish now. Most real politicians are the backbenchers who do fight for their constituents, but have no input in the broader politics of their party. What a shame though. I'd rather see politics fought out on the streets, soap boxes, marches and strikes than the lilly livered substitute we have now.

 

VD  

 

cologne 1
Originally Posted by Garage Joe:
In a bold salute to Dave Javu can I mention again that the non elected PM material is a red herring. Dave has just as much right to be boss as Gordon did. My late Dad said that his generation never complained about Churchill being unelected nor did they remark on his personal habits or mental state. Meanwhile the Tories have shut doon wor tank works.

Quite.

cologne 1
Originally Posted by velvet donkey:
Originally Posted by Carnelian:
Originally Posted by velvet donkey:
Originally Posted by Carnelian:
Originally Posted by velvet donkey:

He was spanner.

 

Non-elected , two years of charm and out.

We don't have presidential system.  Dave is unelected.  The Tories didn't win the election - when Brown was PM the Labour Party had!

And take a wild guess who let them win.

But they didn't 'win'!

Labour didn't lose?

Of course they lost the election, but the Tories didn't win a majority so Dave's squatting in number ten courtesy of the pathetic lib dems.

Carnelian
Originally Posted by Dame_Ann_Average:
Originally Posted by Rosgirl:
Originally Posted by velvet donkey:

And Broonie and economics is an oxymoron.

does that apply to osborne as well who doesn't seem to be able to understand the concept never mind execute it

 

 

with five u-turns in a week, he may have got a few things wrong Ros, or maybe very little right 

33 U turns  all in apparently from this government

Rocking Ros Rose
Originally Posted by Rosgirl:
Originally Posted by Dame_Ann_Average:
Originally Posted by Rosgirl:
Originally Posted by velvet donkey:

And Broonie and economics is an oxymoron.

does that apply to osborne as well who doesn't seem to be able to understand the concept never mind execute it

 

 

with five u-turns in a week, he may have got a few things wrong Ros, or maybe very little right 

33 U turns  all in apparently from this government

 

wait until they try and put Adrian Beecroft's proposals through... I can see Workhouses, soup kitchens and civil uprising   

Dame_Ann_Average
Originally Posted by Carnelian:
Originally Posted by velvet donkey:
Originally Posted by Carnelian:
Originally Posted by velvet donkey:
Originally Posted by Carnelian:
Originally Posted by velvet donkey:

He was spanner.

 

Non-elected , two years of charm and out.

We don't have presidential system.  Dave is unelected.  The Tories didn't win the election - when Brown was PM the Labour Party had!

And take a wild guess who let them win.

But they didn't 'win'!

Labour didn't lose?

Of course they lost the election, but the Tories didn't win a majority so Dave's squatting in number ten courtesy of the pathetic lib dems.

He's a plum.

 

Milliband's a plum.

 

It's an orchard.

FM
Originally Posted by Dame_Ann_Average:
Originally Posted by Rosgirl:
Originally Posted by Dame_Ann_Average:
Originally Posted by Rosgirl:
Originally Posted by velvet donkey:

And Broonie and economics is an oxymoron.

does that apply to osborne as well who doesn't seem to be able to understand the concept never mind execute it

 

 

with five u-turns in a week, he may have got a few things wrong Ros, or maybe very little right 

33 U turns  all in apparently from this government

 

wait until they try and put Adrian Beecroft's proposals through... I can see Workhouses, soup kitchens and civil uprising   

yesssss - i bet they would love the WC'S in their place -

Rocking Ros Rose
Originally Posted by Ņ•ÏÎđ∂Ņ”ŅÐžÏƒÎ·ÐšŅ”Îģ:

I find it difficult to show sympathy/loyalty towards either Labour or Tory.  They are all equally awful.  Lib dems are a nothing party so not worth mentioning.


Don't you think that's really sad though, spider? People in this country don't use their vote as a privilege the way you see it in countries who fight for elections. Voter's apathy comes from somewhere and the parties should address that and define themselves again as they were when they all had an ideology to tell us.

cologne 1

I thought the way Gordon was treated was appalling.  He did keep us out of the Euro and we did have a decade of growth.  We had low unemployment under Labour thanks to Gordon's deft handling of the economy.  When the casino bankers ran out of luck when the WEST's property house of cards fell, Gordon's handling of the crisis and swift and decisive.  Bailing out the banks stopped a 1930s style slump.  I often read comments from Daily Mail types and the venom directed at Brown is nauseating considering how many of the DM reading affluent aged had life savings in banks and building societies.  They'd have been royally screwed if the banks hadn't been bailed out. 

 

Cameron's obnoxious sanctimonious PMQ displays when he insulted, hectored and generally abused Brown were a new low for Parliament when he assumed the role as spokesman for the rabid Daily Mail Labour haters was typical of the little man and shit that he is.

Carnelian
Originally Posted by cologne 1:
Originally Posted by velvet donkey:

Whatever you do remember this.

 

Any pertainers of Broon.

 

We'd be up the Khyber without a pass.

 

Said in dead ironic humour.

First of all, I love you to bits.

 

Gordon Brown was the best Chancellor this country has had since I moved here from Germany, which was in 1979.

Aye he was cool.

 

I'm a man of few words though.

 

And he might have erred 

FM

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