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I rely on my pension, it was the only financial certainty I had. I've marched to defend final salary pensions and can only assume that if we start fiddling about with them at any level, it will be open season. As I said, rearranging deckchairs on the Titanic. When the thickos voted Tory in '79 and ushered in 32 years of Thatcherism we predicted what would happen. The laissez faire economic system has failed big time and to blame it on one or two individuals is foolish. It's the system.
Garage Joe

As a Scot I'll fookin' cheer when the auld bag pops off!(Thatcher) she hated the Scots,we were used as a trial run for the hated poll tax a full year before it was rolled out in the rest of the country. She destroyed the mining industry etc.She had a few MP's up here nothing to lose etc .I think the tories at present have one Mp up here.However I ain't that impressed with spud heed Salmond either.

I actually had tears in  my eyes when John Smith Died,a great man that could have been the best labour leader ever!

kattymieoww
Originally Posted by kattymieoww:

As a Scot I'll fookin' cheer when the auld bag pops off!(Thatcher) she hated the Scots,we were used as a trial run for the hated poll tax a full year before it was rolled out in the rest of the country. She destroyed the mining industry etc.She had a few MP's up here nothing to lose etc .I think the tories at present have one Mp up here.However I ain't that impressed with spud heed Salmond either.

I actually had tears in  my eyes when John Smith Died,a great man that could have been the best labour leader ever!

Katty she may have hated you Scots but us Irish were top of her list,she would have dropped us all into the Atlantic if she could have.The one thing never introduced here was Poll tax,at that stage the conflict was ongoing but Poll tax was one thing both communities would have united to resist,she couldn't risk unison .

~Lee~
Originally Posted by Garage Joe:
I believe pensions have to be defended at every level. We've been involved in a long term battle to defend, what the east Germans referred to, as the old certainties.

The oldest certainty of all is that the rich get rich and the poor get rickets...... I would suggest means testing those rights we go into battle for

Starfleet Admiral hoochie

I couldn't believe that rickets have been in the news recently.lack of sunshine,vitamin D etc.The children of poor families are once again  going through something that was a sign of poverty in the 20's and 30's.I'm in my fifties and remember seeing years ago folk that were twenty/thirty  or so years older than me having Bow legs etc.

kattymieoww
I find it galling that Jackie Stewart has decided to poke his oar in on this.  Both he and jack Nicklaus took 5 million a year as ambassadors for RBS and yet when the bank 'fell over' both refused to resign their contracts (all other sports stars did as far as I'm aware).  Next time he pokes up on the telly, someone should ask him about THAT.  Disgraceful man.
Cosmopolitan
Originally Posted by ~Cosmopolitan~:
I find it galling that Jackie Stewart has decided to poke his oar in on this.  Both he and jack Nicklaus took 5 million a year as ambassadors for RBS and yet when the bank 'fell over' both refused to resign their contracts (all other sports stars did as far as I'm aware).  Next time he pokes up on the telly, someone should ask him about THAT.  Disgraceful man.

Stewart waived his payment for 2009, but still took ÂĢ1million in 2010 and again last year.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/p...art-115875-23731770/

His deal (made just before RBS collapsed) seems particularly dodgy given that he and Fred Goodwin were already good mates...
Perhaps he should be forced to "declare his interests" before making any similar pro-Goodwin comments?

Eugene's Lair
Originally Posted by Eugene's Lair:
Originally Posted by ~Cosmopolitan~:
I find it galling that Jackie Stewart has decided to poke his oar in on this.  Both he and jack Nicklaus took 5 million a year as ambassadors for RBS and yet when the bank 'fell over' both refused to resign their contracts (all other sports stars did as far as I'm aware).  Next time he pokes up on the telly, someone should ask him about THAT.  Disgraceful man.

Stewart waived his payment for 2009, but still took ÂĢ1million in 2010 and again last year.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/p...art-115875-23731770/

His deal (made just before RBS collapsed) seems particularly dodgy given that he and Fred Goodwin were already good mates...
Perhaps he should be forced to "declare his interests" before making any similar pro-Goodwin comments?


stinks a bit doesn't it?

Kaffs

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