they haven't claimed to be able to read  other's minds yet tho...

Agree with above ^^^

After she says I am not cool with that, Denise says sorry and the twin gets back on the sofa to continue dancing and Denise reaches up to do it again.

 I don't care if the girls get their bits out in the middle of a busy high street that is their choice. In the house they had chosen not to show their bodies that is also their choice. Her choice was taken away by some drunk lush who doesn't know that she shouldn't invade someone elses boundaries.

It was only an innocent prank  said Denise ..the twins have no right to object they do it for a living .. so it is okay.. in Denise's head ..she will say anything to justfy her behaviour .. its like saying a prostitute can be raped but it does not matter because they do it for a living,I find those pictures of Denise with her hands touching her breasts and bottom pretty sickening,unfortunately because of the arguement that followed Denise has come out of this smelling of roses,and could actually win..she should get an oscar for best playing actress ..who  plays the sympathy card the best.

People say the twins saw it as an opportunity to get Denise out but when everything's calmed down and they are all sat in the living room being quiet its Denise who walks through with a smirk on her face as if to say "job done"

 She will stay tonight and the twins will be booed out of the house and she will feel she did nothing wrong.

She will never admit she did anything wrong this is what alcoholics do best,it is always the other persons fault that is how they justify their behaviour.. the public will be right behind her.. how dare an American upset our Denise.. the last two nights on BOTS they have had on Denise's friends and been very anti American,not really helping her in the long run to sort out her demons

Marg, Longcat.. agree with all you say.   I'm actually annoyed with the twins now, because they've helped her enormously in there and instead of being kicked out tonight as she should be, she's now getting the underdog vote and the jingoistic vote and will probably end up as top woman.    BotS made me sick last night - I switched off half way through.

.. oh and Marg, yes - I found her pawing the twins a bit creepy - as I said in the HL thread, if that's what 'girls' nights' consist of, thank heavens I don't do them.  Thankfully none of my friends are like Denise.

The last 2 nights of BOTS was nothing more than a glorified "Save our Denise" campaign .

Marge, longcat and Kaffy..totally agree with everything you say, I had to turn BBOTS off they don't even realise how offensive they sound saying things about The Americans..could you imagine if it was Asian HMs they were talking about..and as for Denise she made a show of herself with what she did to the twins..what she said to nicola and the way she went to snog Gareth..the woman is discusting....

I was ashamed last night at the anti American brigade it made for very uncomfortable viewing and had it been against a black person it would have been considered racist.

I can agree that they are wrong in criticising Denise for jumping in the jacuzzi with Frankie, but not that Karissa is wrong to feel upset that Denise pulled her trousers down and then looked like she was attempting it again. If Karissa had a history of yanking down the trousers of others and was insistent that there was nothing wrong in doing so , then yes she would be a hypocrite. Just because she chooses to expose her own flesh does not make her hypocritical to object to others who do so. People may think that she was over-sensitive or that she took things too far in the diary room, but to label her a hypocrite for it is wrong.

I can see the difference in that if the show was anti-Asian or black, that would clearly be racist, but the jingoistic nationalism on display was pretty nauseating anyway. I actually complained about it this morning to C5, the first time I have ever felt moved to complain about a TV show!

Good post Kimota....IMO her Diary room responses ,which were obviously edited,were centred around her butt being shown,she was wearing a thong,her PJ's were pulled down at the back to mid thigh level,so yes if BB had shown the incident from a different angle her butt  would have been seen.Her butt,her choice to show it or not,her right to complain when someone else takes it upon themselves to expose her butt,not hypocritical,her RIGHT.

I totally agree Longcat I had to turn the programme off in the end before I blew a gasket..and good on you for complaining to ch5....

It was me who complained Stonks. Anyone else who wants to can use this link:

http://www.channel5.com/contact-us

Soz just realised my mistake kimota..and thankyou for the idea, I've just been and complained..my first complaint ever and I will not be watching that show after tonight..I will only watch tonights to see if anything is said about people turning off or complaining....

It was a disgrace the antics on that farce of a show last night,tbh it matched comments on FB from folk I never would have expected it from,I can't be doing with that negative generalising of a whole nation ,out order.I'll use that link too btw,ty Kimota.

In future I will only watch BOTS if they have a guest on who I like (rare) or during eviction nights.

Gawd you won't be watching it much then....since it started this year there are so many zelebs I can't stand because of the way they are on it including Rodrigo lastnight....

I expected him (Rodrigo)to at least speak up last night when they were saying only British HM's blah blah blah,the way they went on would have excluded him from being a HM and he can forget ever being on CBB 

  Stonks.   Rodrigo was a huge disappointment last night.     Lucky they weren't trying to get the foreigners out when he was on it eh?

Snap,hahahahaha 

..he's that deluded he thinks he's British the daft sod, he's moaning on twitter that he took stick lastnight, he's lucky I put my phone to bed or I'd have given him a right mouthful....

And he wears too much blusher. 

Didnt see Rodders last night but Ive seen enough of the twins to convince me that they are utterly ruthless mercinaries who will exploit any situation where they think it might show someone else in a bad light or make them money.

Im not a fan of Denise but Im sympathetic with her over the latest shenanagins

I noticed that....

Kimoto. I am not for one minute condoning what Denise did. I think she well overstepped the mark. What you say is true, but, I am referring to Karissa saying she is reserved and shy.Ermm....Just Google her name and you can see how reserved and shy she is.

Lol  I was disappointed in him too..to think I voted and voted for him to win..traitor

I can see why people are quick to say that Sezit, but there are performers and actors who go on stage and have huge personalities that have audience eating out of their hands... who's to say that it's not a similar thing?    When she's working - she has no problem acting out the 'fantasy woman' role... but when she's not 'in character' she is more reserved - and as  someone said somewhere on here (sorry to who it is I can't quite remember) maybe the fact that she exposes everything in her work makes it even more important to her that in her personal life she is more reserved?

I'd say that on balance  Karissa is  quite reserved, she's about the only one that kept her clothes on throughout this BB.

*snarl*

Kaffy. I hadn't thought of that, I do see what you mean though.