I didn't watch it Soozy.... but I've heard good things about it....

Let me tell you some bad things about it! Thank Bog I had the crossword.

Well I loved it! GJ ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,any clues you're stuck on? I love a crossword!

Well, I watched it and thought it was great. I meant to post in the original thread last week but forgot.

 

I've never read the book, but was intrigued in it after it was shortlisted for the BBC's "The Big Read" a while back (even though it was William Hague who "championed" it...)

it was good, not quite as i imagined it, but  everyone must see or get some thing different from  a book.

 

have you read Engeleby sooz?

Swinging crawler, not entirely supportive of Paul, regularly pinching bottom. P*N*U**** Pendulous? Pendulant?

Is that the one written by Shirley Williams mum? I've read that one ........................actually it might not have been Engleby. Can you expand a bit? Is it good? I love WW! novels.

It was written by sebastion faulks.

 

I wont tell you the story because it's too easy to ruin it  for people.

 

brilliant book.

Oh it's not about WW1.

I would go pendulous .......does it fit in with other clues?

I've got a dimellla! 

Have downloaded the book AND recorded the two parter on the Beeb.  Do I read first and then watch or vice versa?  

I'D SAY READ THE BOOK.

cept i wouldnt shout under normal circumstances.

Ah .............i've read most of Seb Faulks ................a few are good ...........I've been dissapointed by some - I think i did read Enderby ........remind me!

 

I loved the Girl at Lion Dor and Charlotte Gray (linked to Birdsong) - I hated the long winded psychiatric novel ................(actually I think that might have been Enderby) ................i skipped over the everso long lecture notes.

 

I get all excited at a new Sebastian Faulkes novels but often feel let down TBH.

 

For WW1 novels .....................the trilogy by Pat Barker (eye in the Door) fabulous!

yep, i think its the long winded pshychiatric one.

 

for me the best thing he's written because i find some of his work hard to get into.

But for me ........that was soooooo hard to get into. The Girl at Lion Dor is wonderful.

 

 

 

Edited to say ...............Birdsong is his best IMO.

It struck me as something that could have been done and dusted in ninety minutes. I kept an eye on both episodes whilst struggling mit the Times n Grauniad x words and don't feel as though i missed anything. I wonder if any other 30 year + addicted to telly, partnerships have an agreement such as ours? Obviously we both enjoy quality stuff such as spooks and not so quality such as Laura Norder, and anything scandanavian. I tolerate stuff like midwives n birdsong. Mrs jer tolerates sport for men.

   I have exactly the same dimella.     I've been watching 'The Slap' that I recorded (two parts still to watch) and I've downloaded that book too.. so I have a backlog.  In that case I'm glad I've watched the series so I have the characters in my head now.   I'll do the telly version of Birdsong first.

Have you read the book Joe? I nagged Mr woo for years to read it .........................eventually he did - whilst he was reading it he kept saying 'I don't know what you're on about' .............................when he finished he said ....'.awwwwwwwwwwwwww I wanna read it again - it wont leave me' Believe me it's a cracking read - it inspired us to do a Battlefield tour in Ypres ..........something that touched me in a way i can't put into words. We lost a generation of boys and young men - it was like nothing that had ever happened before or since and changed our society forever!

 

I'm droning on now but .......................on Tuesday i'm off to the Imperial War Museum .............I feel I need to know more.

 

I know I'm a bit sad ............C'est la vie.

Lost me with this one

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Read the book first!

will it spoil the ending if I see the tv version first?    

Soozy ! Since the early seventies I've done the Compiegne to Amiens trip, Dieppe, Arnhem, Normandy, and various sites in Germany. Truly sobering events. I still found the telly prog pisspoor.

Then read the book!

I don't wanna read the book!! :wink:

Not at all ...........there is another dimension to the book ..........................it goes beyond the ending.

 

Either way it'll be all good ......................although I would read the book first (it's first class).

I have a huge pile of books to read.

Your loss . took me years to persuade Mr Woo to read it ....................it's now number one on his list!

Thank god it's not a talking book then!

 

See, if I read the book then the prog might be a disappointment (judging by some comments on the forum).  Perhaps I should just delete the Sky + and pretend it never happened.

 

But........having read Last Bus To Woodstock and a couple of others by Colin Dexter, I found it hard to take to John Thaw as Morse at first.  And Lewis come to think of it (Lewis was a tall Welsh man and a couple of years older than Morse).  And Morse drove a Lancia not a Jag.... not that it mattered. 

 

That makes me think that I'd probably prefer the book because it's as Faulks intended it to be - not some producers idea dabbled with for tv viewing.

I normally read books first, then I'm disappointed in the film/tv...  you get insight into the film from the book that they don't always have the time to fully impart in the film - the characters' thought processes etc.     OK, you convinced me - book it is.

 

On the whole book/film thing... I'll never forgive the screenwriters of Captain Corelli's Mandolin.

Loved the book .............never seen the film.

 

TBH ........................I've probably enjoyed the TV adaptation of Birdsong because there has been many years since I've read it. IMO it isn't advisable to see the film?TV adaptation too close to reading the book. That being the case - scrap the TV adaptation of Birdsong and read the book.

 

IMO the two exceptions (where the book and film are on a par) The Green Mile and One Flew Over the Cuckoos Nest.

if you loved the book - don't ever watch Captain Corelli the movie then Sooz.   Remember the really poignant ending of the book.....?   In the film they all live happily ever after..

 

  Ohhhhh Emmmm Geeeeeeeeeee!  You've given it away

 

Not that I've seen the film or read the book 

 

 

Why do they do that, change the ending and still name it after the book?

'A Variation of Captain Corelli and His Mandolin' would be a more suitable title

i know.. I'm just a spoiler fanatic.  

 

should I delete?

 

nah.. if you watch the film you deserve it

Happens all the time, I'm afraid. I've heard a horrible rumour that even the new Daniel Radcliffe version of "The Woman in Black" has a changed ending.  

I'm all for a director showing their own style, but when it comes to actually changing the tone and intention of the piece...

 

I'm a big fan of Christopher Priest's book "The Prestige", and have recommended it to loads of friends. I was therefore dreading the film version. When it came out, several friends were very angry because of some very large changes in the plot and overall themes. Personally, I took them fairly well as I saw the film as a work in its own right, and there are parts of the book that are virtually unfilmable anyway. I still understood my friends' anger, though...

 

Science Fiction tends to suffer particularly badly from this.Take Philip K Dick's books and short stories: a lot of them have been filmed, but when you go back to the source, you often find (e.g. with "Minority Report"), that the film has taken only a few basic ideas and changed everything-else...

I loved the book and always thought that it would be a very difficult task to bring it to the screen.  They did change some of the story (If I remember rightly, the reason Isabelle buggered off was different to that in the book).

 

The TV version, for me, lacked the emotional intensity of the book but I thought it was great and, in parts, very moving

I haven't actually read the book yet (something I will remedy) but I have to say I wasn't all that impressed with this series 

 

For me it lacked any intensity despite the themes running through it.  Have to say I was disappointed.  Never mind, I'm sure the book is much better