Why did he feel the need to throw him off like that 

It has been alleged the young lad had a ticket and was thrown off the train without all his possesions including his diabeties medicine.

This have a go hero could be charged with assault.

The guy who filmed it was on the news this morning... apparently they had been waiting there at the station while the guard argued with the bloke for a whole 5 minutes Obviously after that kind of inconvenience and delay, tempers were frayed  

It seemed to be handled badly. I don't know about Scotland, but down in London the normal procedure would be to issue a penalty fare to someone without a ticket, and if they refused to give details, call ahead to the Transport Police. Giving the go ahead to a member of the public to throw someone off seems iffy as well. The lad probably does have grounds to press charges, as the force needed to eject him was clearly excessive. The big guy was probably twice the lads weight, so there was no need to hurl him onto the platform.

Agreed.

I think the Big Man was a bit too Big for his Boots.

The guy who filmed was on Radio 2 yesterday, and had said that the youth in question had also been swearing at the ticket guard.  Not saying that makes it right what the other guy did, but there was more to the story than what we see in the video.

Just seemed abit over the top to me, the lad might not have had the money for a ticket and tried to sneak on, i'm sure alot of people have tried it before and what's it got too do with the other bloke anyway 

I thought it was just me.  I thought the 'big guy' was a bit of a big headed nob tbh who obviously feels the need to show off.  Is he a security guard for British rail?  No.  Was he a policeman on duty?  No.  Even the rail company said that their staff are trained to deal with conflict and the public should NEVER intervene..,  This man had no reason to do this.  IMO, he isn't a 'hero' or a 'big man,' more a showy nobhead.

Puts me in mind of when I was in Asda the other week, and the guy in front of me was moaning because the queue was barely moving, and the one next to us was flying down, and he was saying to his partner 'what IS that girl doing?  She is so slow...'  Nobody but his partner, and me, and the guy in front of him and 'his' partner could hear.  After a brief moany moment, the guy in front of the guy moaning turned around and said very loudly...  'who the HELL do you think you're f**king griping about?  YOU try sitting here 8 hours a day with 100s of people coming at you, and see if YOU could do it!'  

WELL, the guy in front of me (who was moaning,)  went purple and said VERY loudly 'I'm not TALKING to YOU, you nosey c**t.  I am talking to my f**king WIFE. Who the F*** do you think you are, nosing in on my bastard conversation...  Keep your f**king fat bastard nose OUT OF MY F**KING conversation.'  Then the OTHER guy said 'You F**king what?!'  And then 2 security guards came along, and took over and they BOTH were asked to leave, out of separate doors.  

My point?  The guy in front of me who was having a whinge about the slow moving queue was having a private convo with his partner, and the checkout girl could not hear.  It was nothing to do with the guy having a go at him - very loudly.  I don't know if he thought it made him look 'big,' but the guy he tried to tell off looked like he wanted to kill him..,  IMO he was right, it WAS nothing to do with him.  TBH, most people I know have had a moan about slow moving queues and the guy had no right to try and shout him down in public.  It almost backfired, because I swear that the guy who was moaning would have kicked the shit out of the nosey one if the 2 security guards had not intervened.

So why this bloke - on the train - felt he had to act all vigilante, just baffles me TBH.  This was nothing to do with him.

Are you sure it wasn't aldi's?

I agree, but he obviously felt inconvenienced by the delay and his supporters argue that he was merely doing what we all would have done in the 'good old days' and that no-one wants to challenge poor behaviour any more. The more right wing, authoritarian types went further and blamed New Labour for making us too dependent on the state and officials to want to get involved.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-s...ide-central-16177725

Apparently his bag was thrown onto the platform but he didn't realize that at first, which is why he tried to reboard the train.

Don't buy that, really. It's just the normal British way: don't complain, don't get involved (and then have a good moan about it afterwards...  )

This is a classic example of the lack of respect for authority in people today.

I can see why the 'Big guy' intervened, maybe not the best way to deal with it but the lad hadn't paid and was refusing to leave the train. The inspector couldn't do much about it and the lad knew that.

I haven't read much about it all and ive only watched the video, from the video alone the big guy was merely helping the inspector out... If the inspector had thrown the guy off the train he most probably would have been sued and lost his job (im guessing this is why the lad was back chatting) So fair play to the 'Big guy' is what i say... if it makes that lad think twice about being an arse in future well done!

Before the video became popular on the web, Mr Main appeared more amused by it - writing on Facebook on Sunday: "There's a video of me on youtube hahahahaha! Scotrail no ticket "

im with you jen, can't count how many times ive seen gobby oiks, prattle on about their rights,don't care who they inconvenience or how they speak to people,  etc.  the lad is now going to sue the big fella, because he has a scratch on his face.

worra prat.

that part of him trying to reboard the train had me in fits of giggles!

I've not read the rest of your post yet Cups, but from the time I spend on trains I'd say their 'training' consists of 'go and hide in your cubby hole until the trains reaches it's destination'   I commuted loast distance on a weekly basis.. Fridays were generally chock a bloc with cases in vestibules, people standing... hen/stag weekends and a lot of idiots.  On the days when it was at its worst I hardly ever had my ticket checked... never saw a train manager.

Watched the video now...    Many's a time I'd have been been grateful if that guy had been on my train.     The fare dodger obviously isn't a professional though... they all know you have to go to the toilet when the conductor's in the next carriage and wait there till he's passed through.

Quick question.

East coast rail! Do they have smoke detectors or cameras in their toilets.

I'm asking because I recently travelled from edinburgh to london and had just lit a sneaky ciggie in the toilets when an announcement came over the tannoy. It went like this.

"All east coast rail trains are non smoking. It is a criminal offence to smoke in gangways and toilets, if you are caught smoking in these areas british transport police can be called and you can be ejected at the next station or fined up to £200, so would the person who thinks this law doesn't apply to them please extinguish their ciggarette immediatley"

To say I was red faced as I left the toilet would be an understatement.

virgin trains have smoke detectors, stain - I expect they all do