What are they discussing Syd.... ? I'm watching another channel...

Why women (girls's) are shaving their bits and applying sparkly bits for either themselves or men.............. 

I would have liked to have seen a younger man with some input.....

 Do they do that?.....

According to the three women..........never got a view from three men.............

I think the usual explanation is that young men have preconceived ideas as to what they want to see based on their exposure to modern pornography which insists on showing the said bits in er, all their glory. Our generation preferred a more unkempt view. Of course in my day pornography was restricted to a better class of person. etc.

Just because you could'nt reach  the top shelf........I think it is SAD that the shelf has been lowered....  and the preconceived ideas are IMO iffy.............xx

I think women's/girls ideas of what men find attractive has gone way askew........... 

I'm all for equality, but, why go down to the base sexual ground level of men?......... 

And I have been married for a few years and love him.....never had to shave my bits for him or my girlfriends.............

I am ranting now, but the smug bloke asking questions of the three women...............got on my wick!!!!!

Ultimately the discussion was about women/girls feeling like that they had to "groom" themselves to be attractive.............in 2011......to either please males or being seen to be "groomed" cos they can afford it........... 

Vajazzelling I think it's called.  Don't see the appeal of it myself.  It would just mean my OH would ask to see it more often and I'm not having that!

If Mr Blizz ever tried to insist on such a thing (or even suggested a preference), I would carpet it with glasspaper, for his pleasure. 

As for the original question, Syd, I think it was just that it was Paxman's turn this evening.

 

One of the things I love about Newsnight, is that they do actually have plenty of wimmin on the team. 

Well the Wimmin let me down tonight Blizz.......xxxxxxx

Vajazzle has been discucused a few times here. It was popularized about a year and a half ago by Jennifer Love Hewitt. I agree: it's got to be the most ridiculous "fashion" for years.

I can understand it being used in the *ahem* adult entertainment industry, but beyond that - why?

"Fashion".....being watched by young girls......Feminism gone wrong.....IMO 

I think they had a variety of women's views, from the serious feminist, the comical feminist, to the pock-marked prostitute author! 

 

I'm not sure a man could have answered the question, "Why the fluff are wimmin bothering with removing their fluff?" 

The point was made that most of these things start in the 'adult' entertainment industry.

 

I do agree with the Belle de Jour woman, that most men realise that it's all a load of bollox, once they meet a real woman.

 

The trick is to encourage more women to stay real. 

Very true, although he'd perhaps be more likely to ask the question. Vajazzling appears to have been almost entirely popularized by women themselves (even in the porn industry), and I think most blokes would share my bemusement of it...

Exactly.

 

It seems to me that is more akin to a handbag obsession, than to pleasing men.

 

The waxing question is more vexing.

I do find it slightly sinister to remove all proof of adulthood, from that area. 

The "Trick" seems to be going wrong tho Blizz..........hense the trend for "Mucking about with Trimmers, stickers, bottox, hair extentions, fake tans, pints, shots, ............started off with Kung Fu"

As I understand it, vajazzle didn't originate in the porn industry, though. The term was invented by Jennifer Love Hewitt, and it was just a development of more general body art.

I agree with your other post: it seems to be more like handbags, with rich young women (such as in Hollywood) wanting the latest expensive "status" symbol.

ahhh vagazzle, you couldn't make it up

I know.

 

It does worry me, Syd, but the only (limited) control that I have is on my own kids .

 

I'm just hoping for it to come full circle. 

 

This idea that women should be hairless, stems from women having less body hair than men.

Therefore women should not only not have a beard, but should not grow armpit hair, or leg hair. Now it has progressed to pubic hair! 

 

Maybe one day women, and men, will stop wasting their time and money on such pointless exercises. 

 

Doesn't that have a lot to do with fashions in beachwear, though? E.g. the infamous Brazilian...

Unless you're wearing your thong the wrong way round, there's no need to remove the whole landing strip. 

Well, you could just go for a landing strip...

Thinking about it, perhaps the Brazilian wasn't the best example of a practical bikini wax.

Eventually I hope.......(Ouch).........xxx

One suspects all will become clear on reading Caitlin (hubba Hubba) Moran's new book.

 

 

and err Vagazzling is just not in my books, i couldn't be chewed with all the little bits 

Oooh I'm sure he'd find a way round it.

  

Not for me dear 

 

The very  thought