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Baez says he hopes people learn you can not convict someone till they have their day in court 

 

Mason says he hopes this is a lesson to those who have speculated and says he is ashamed of attorneys who went on tv and talked trash

 

This case is a perfect example of why the death penalty doesn't work.

Baez says this is why the death penalty doesn't work. "We need to stop trying to kill our people."

Ev (Peachy)
Originally Posted by Dame_Ann_Average:
Originally Posted by Ev (Peachy):

Cindy smiled when the verdict was read.

George looked angry and upset when the verdict was read

 

 

 

Do you blame him Ev, he knows exactly where the blame lies....I'd better get back to it, or it's going to be midnight by the time we get finished...and I have to switch this trial off, before my computer goes through the window   later Ev xx

Even the reporters were shocked at his reaction.

 

I havnt changed my views on him, i dont trust him, ive always thought the abuse accusations were closer to the truth. I stick to that. 

Ev (Peachy)

From The Hinky Meter: 

 

Caylee Anthony case: Magpie reports on the verdict 07/05/11

To say I’m speechless doesn’t even begin to cover it. So, I’ll just start with the
beginning of my day. We were in line at 7:30AM for our seat passes. Everyone was
excited to be there if the verdict came back today and nervous about only being
given a 30 minute time frame to return for the verdict. Security was greatly
heightened for the verdict days. The court knew that emotions ran high for this
tense trial that so many had invested time in.

We were lead up this morning to see those few minutes when the jury is greeted by
the court and sent back to deliberate. Quite a few of today’s spectators hadn’t been
to able to attend at all so they were excited to see the room and all the players.
As we left HHJPerry was in the outer area. One of the spectator’s yelled out “We
love you Judge Perry. My whole family loves you”. He just beamed from ear to ear. I
can’t think of a more charming man. Bill Sheaffer is a close tie.

Deputies came down to get those with seat passes in line to enter court about 1:29.
The hundreds of people that had gathered waiting to see ‘celebrity’ media or passes
for tomorrow let out a cheer that echoed thru the halls of the court property. You
would have thought that a major rock star was coming on stage. Everyone just knew
this was going to be a guilty verdict. They KNEW IT.

 

We were all led back thru security and into the court. George & Cindy where ushered
past us at 1:40. Cindy was crying and looked like she had been for most of the day.
George looked like he was going to be physically ill. He held a tissue to his mouth
and mostly sat apart from Cindy. Lost in his own world. No matter what the verdict
would be for casey, George was going to lose today. The gallery was a mix of
excitement and tears. So many of the people who came today were emotional. For
Caylee and the Anthonys. They’ve been invested in this case for a long time and it
was hard not to be emotional.

Lippmann sat with his clients giving them some last minute advice on what the
procedure would be. I don’t know how you can prepare someone for what the Anthonys
might hear. I guess you go over the charges and possible verdicts. What will happen
if this is the verdict. What will happen if that is.

 

Karen Levey was in the elevator going up with Tony Pipitone and I. She talked a
little about how glad the staff would be when this is over. They’ve been working
impossibly long hours under great stress. Tony made a joke about Karen running the
jury as efficiently as she ran the court. Even he was surprised at how quickly they
came back. Most people were saying they’d either come back immediately or it would
be several days. Thursday seemed to be the big winner in the pool. But when we knew
the jury was actually coming back today it really surprised.

The gallery and media where all in at 1:50. Everyone somber. Respectful of the dire
nature of what could happen here. I was a little taken back to see Mr. Mason and Ms
Frye at the defense table laughing and chatting. You would think they were waiting
for the verdict on a misdemeanor charge. Not a verdict for their client who faced
the death penalty. Ms Medina & Ms Simms were the only two that seemed concerned over
the possible penalty casey could face. Of course here I was being critical of their
behavior and my concern was that I was wearing one of my least favorite blouses.

 

Linda Drane Burdick, Jeff Ashton, Mr. George and others sitting with them were
chatting and smiling but with a little more respect for the court than the defense.
Baez must have been with casey because he didn’t come into court until just after
2:00. He was his usual smiling self looking around the gallery to see who had come
to see his big finish. Giving the Orlando Sentinel pool  photographer a big “I’m going to Disney World” grin.

I’m not sure what Lippmann said to the Anthonys about then but it caused George to
start crying softly. Crying that he didn’t recover from till after the verdict was
heard. Cindy tried yet again to make eye contact with casey but she never looked to
her parents. Not even today. George seemed to have found a nice, neutral spot on the
floor to stare at.

 

As soon as casey came into court she broke down. You could tell she had been trying
to hold it together but just couldn’t. Baez got on one knee and held her hand trying
to talk to her and soothe her. Mr. Mason also gave her a few brief words. Ms Simms
looked over at George & Cindy several times. Trying to give them some comfort that
they and casey couldn’t do on their own. After the verdict Ms Simms was the person
that casey wanted most to hold and be held by. Simms broke down completely and you
just knew that she had become not only casey’s supporter but most likely her
surrogate mother during the last year. If she didn’t believe casey was not guilty
you’d never know it by her reaction. That wasn’t the reaction of an attorney who’d
done their job and gotten their client off. That was the reaction of a person who
deeply cared for their client and was finally able to release their fear and let
their guard down.

 

For the Anthony’s that wait  once they heard the verdict was in, driving to court and waiting in the gallery had
to have been the longest, most painful hour of their lives.
There was a moment while we were all waiting for HHJPerry to come in that Baez and I
were looking around the court. We just happened to lock eyes. I wasn’t really sure
if he was looking at me or through me to the Sentinel reporter. We just looked at
each other for a second and I nodded my head and slightly smiled and then he did the
same. I guess it was our way of saying this has been a long time coming and it ends
here. There have been moments when I could have kicked Baez. There have been times
where I could see some charm and caring. After all he’s just another southern man.
And I know all about southern men. All their bluster and bravado. Charm and
redneckish good ole’ boy attitude. I’ve lived my whole life with them. So I know the
likes of Baez and Mason.

 

I didn’t see any juror look at casey when they came in. But I also remember being on
a few juries and we had all agreed to do that. I think you learn it from a movie or
something and it just kind of sticks with you. As a tell for the jury’s verdict it
doesn’t mean squat.

HHJPerry called for the verdict and for it to be published by the Court Clerk. Baez
and Ms Simms had to help casey to her feet and to keep her standing.
 
One by one she read the charges and the jury’s decision.
Count #1 Not Guilty
Count #2 Not Guilty
Count #3 Not Guilty
Count #4 Guilty
Count #5 Guilty
Count #6 Guilty
Count #7 Guilty

 

I think from the shock of hearing “Not Guilty” on all the most relevant
charges I just stopped listening. I’m sure most people listening did. Or they were
going to playback on their DVR thinking they’d heard wrong. It couldn’t be. What was
the jury smoking. NOT GUILTY!!! This is what we have to live with after all this
time. Makes me go back to one of my original statements about why this case became
the international media sensation it had. Florida’s Sunshine laws. Transparency in
government. How much did that cause the media hype? Is it time to revisit those
laws?
At least in capital crimes?

 

After the initial reaction to the verdict one of the first responses from Baez was
to grab casey’s handâ€Ķ look up to the balcony at Geraldo and put an ear to ear shit
eating grin on his face. The man has gotten the ‘most hated woman in the world’ off
(basically) and he’s now going to be the most sought after attorney in the nation.
Hope he didn’t already sign a contract with TeleMundo cause his value just rose like
the gold rush of the 1800’S.

After the jury cleared out and the gallery was beginning to clear the entire defense team broke down. Casey was wailing in Ms. Sim’s arms. All the team were struggling to hug her and each other. Only Baez and
Mason weren’t crying. I’m sure the sound of a cash register rung in their ears while
they planned the spot to plant their money tree in the yard.

 

George and Cindy were quickly ushered out of the courtroom. Cindy looked pleased.
George looked sick. I’m sure they wanted the Hell out of Dodge before media and the
crowd could get to them. The crowd slowly walked outside like they were waiting for
the dream to end. People weren’t just upset. They weren’t just in tears. They were
screaming in anguish about the lack of justice they were witnessing. People were
crying and couldn’t understand why. They never expected to have that much of an
emotional response to the verdict. Instead of the cheers they all came down to the
courthouse to share today (knowing that casey would be convicted) they were in a
state of near panic. Caylee would never have justice and that her murderer would be
walking around town with them soon. It was as if (and I include myself) we had never
seriously considered that casey would walk from this. Not with a mere slap on the
wrist.

 

People even talked about it being so much  worse than the OJ verdict. He had bought that freedom. He had killed other adults in a passionate rage. But this was a child. A child that they felt had been
murdered by the one person that a child should never fear. Should never be in
jeopardy of. And yet casey walks. No one will ever pay for Caylee’s murder. And no
matter what the defense wants us all to believe. There wasn’t one person in that
group of hundreds that believed that child died of an accidental anything. Dr. G
was right in her opinion. You call 911 when your child dies. You run to your
neighbors with the baby in your arms for help. You don’t duct tape the face, throw
her in some bags and eventually throw her in the woods. EVER.

 

We were told that the jury would be involved in a press conference where 29
organizations would be able to ask questions in order that was drawn by lottery.
Media who didn’t make the lottery were allowed to give the court sealed envelopes
that were to be given to the jury. We all know now the jury never gave that press
conference today. Maybe one of those envelopes gave the jury a clue to just how big
this trial was. To just how profitable it could be for them. Or maybe they just
wanted to get out of town as quickly as possible after all these weeks away from
their homes and families. Either way, I’m sure we’ll see them eventually. I feel for
them and for what they’ll go thru over the next days and weeks. They may become the
“most hated jury” in the nation. We just need for them to explain. We need to
understand. But we’ll never know the story of Caylee’s life and death. That will
always be a mystery. Even if casey had been convicted it would have always just been assumptions.

 

There was a large crowd waiting downstairs. State Attorney Lawson Lamar and Orange
County Sheriff Demings gave a brief speech about how wonderful all the investigators
and attorney’s and staff were. How they were always about justice for Caylee. That
there were too many who got involved to further their fame and fortune. It made me
wonder if he had done some of the same. If the Death Penalty had gone too far. Could
they have convicted on a lesser manslaughter charge. They thrust this jury into one of the nation’s biggest crimes on mostly circumstantial evidence. We know so much more about casey and the story then the jury did. Did the State overreach. This will be the stuff of interviews, trial watchers, court show and legal classes for a
long time to come.

 

Cheney Mason showed what a complete and pompous ass he is by vilifying the
attorneys who were commenting on the case. Saying that he and all the other
attorneys in his profession were disgusted by these ‘talking heads’. By the way,
wasn’t Mr. Mason one of those talking heads before he signed on to “have some
fun”?? He then went on to bluster and gloat for a few minutes. I couldn’t hear what
all he was saying because my head was spinning and there’s a little bit of bile in
my throat bothering me. On the other handâ€Ķ.Baez gave a remarkably mature and
professional speech. Saying that this wasn’t a day to be happy. That all the
attorneys acted admirably. That it wasn’t a day for celebrating (well, at least not
until he walked the two blocks to Terrace 390). And that he only hoped that casey
could start rebuilding her life.

 

It looks like grasshopper has surpassed the master. And the old dog is going out like a fool. Maybe Baez bought some class with the $200K of casey’s money. Which by the way we’ve never seen a full accounting of. We know
it wasn’t spent on attorneys. Does casey have a small trust fund set aside so she
can now go stay at the Ritz until the first deal is brokered?

 

I was driving home. Bowled over. Trying to imagine what it was that we saw and the
jurors didn’t. How I could have read their body language so completely wrong. Then
it occurred to me. When they started ignoring Baez, I’d assumed (probably from my
projecting) they were already tuning him out. I can only assume that what happened
was they weren’t expecting anything from him and were more intent on what the State
had to say. Waiting for the State to prove to them that casey and casey alone was
responsible for the death of her daughter. As much as I tried to make myself neutral
I guess I just couldn’t get past all the evidence, all the media hype I’d heard over
the last 3 years. I saw a jury that was listening to the State hoping that it would
make their decision easy for them. They didn’t expect or want anything from the
defense. And they didn’t get what we needed them to. We now all have to go to bed
and make peace with the fact that  casey will soon be free.

 

Another thought occurred to me. The look on George’s face. How I’ve seen this man go
thru pain, grief, anger, resentment, outrage, love and then finally since Baez’s
opening statements a total demeanor of despair and betrayal. Nothing will ever be
the same for this man. The absolute joy of his life was snatched from under his
nose. He also realizes he might never know the truth of what happened to his granddaughter.

And I thought of the gun he bought. Of his suicide note. That George said he had an
idea who might be involved in Caylee’s death and that he bought the gun to force
that person to tell him the truth and he would get justice for Caylee and then join
her. I worry for this man after the trial. A man who’s reputation and family is
shredded beyond repair. I worry because although I think his cause has been Caylee,

Cindy’s cause has always been casey. I worry that Lee not being there today says

he’s done what he had to and is washing his hands  of the whole mess. And only Cindy will be there for George. I hope he doesn’t still have that gun and that someone in their lives knows that this is a man who feels he
hasn’t got anything to lose. And he still wants answers.

 

Ashton seems to have established a semblance of a relationship and respect for George. He needs to spend
his next few days before retirement making sure that George is alright and that
someone is looking after him. My son thinks I’m completely wrong about George. That
he is guilty and did most of what the defense accuses him of. If so, then I guess
I’m a fool again. Going into this I had convicted ALL the Anthonys. I was sure
they were all complicit in Caylee’s death or the cover up. But as I sat month
after month with them something changed. Slowly, but it did. I saw their humanity.
I felt their grief. I understood their dilemma. I didn’t agree with their actions.
But if that is a man who could molest and do what casey says he did. Then I’m the worst judge of character ever.

I never saw Cindy talk about Caylee. It was always about her and casey. But I did see George try,
maybe for the first time in his life, to stand up to his family and do right. And
it came back to bite him. Badly. Is it his Karma? Maybe.

 

I’m planning on attending the sentencing hearing Thursday. Most attorney’s are
saying casey will walk out of court a free women that day. Some say she might get
another six months. Either way, I’ve got to find a way to get this trash heap of
almost Encyclopedic knowledge of the case out of my brain. I made a commitment to
see this thru and Thursday will be the culmination of 3 years involvement in the
Anthonys’ tragedy and our State’s biggest international criminal case to date. I
guess for Linda and Frank and their staff, they’ve got other trials they’ll dive into
tomorrow.

 

Peace
Magpie

 

 

Scotty

I find that article very disturbing, as I have with  the few bits of hinky stuff I have read, which wasn't much after I realised they had hung drawn and quartered the defendant from day one and the reports/comments were completely slanted in favour of the states case..

 

the reports of the lynch mob outside awaiting a guilty verdict too...., disgusting..  

 

and the author talking about the past 3 yrs as if that is all her life consisted of.. there's interest for Justice's sake then there is a somewhat insane over the top interest for . .well I can't think of the word I want here.. it feels so wrong... it's like they were consumed by the thing completely..

 

thank gawd these people weren't on the Jury and I hope none of them ever do get to sit on a Jury, that's regardless of the fact that with the extra knowledge most people had via media about info that wasn't part of the evidence,  shows there is maybe something wrong with the verdict or maybe the choices of verdicts they were given to deliberate about... but the Hinky lot would have her strapped in and taking her last breath long before the case finished..

 

it is very sad that there is no resolution for Caylee and no one will know for sure what happened to her, but that is what happens sometimes in a  Justice system that allows some evidence in but not other stuff.. I don't know enough about the law and why some things are allowed and others aren't but would we want to be without a Justice system even if it is flawed sometimes.. I think not . .what I do know is that there was no physical proof for the States case to convict Casey and to ask a Jury to still give a guilty verdict on circumstantial evidence is asking too much.. I hope all those weirdos that seem to have lived and breathed every minute moment of this case for 3 yrs like the author of that article and the people outside the court can get their lives back and join the real world. .for their sakes.. it can't be healthy to be so involved like that  ..  ..   

 

Mount Olympus *Olly*
Originally Posted by Mount Olympus *Olly*:

 

 

it is very sad that there is no resolution for Caylee and no one will know for sure what happened to her, but that is what happens sometimes in a  Justice system that allows some evidence in but not other stuff.. I don't know enough about the law and why some things are allowed and others aren't but would we want to be without a Justice system even if it is flawed sometimes.. I think not . .what I do know is that there was no physical proof for the States case to convict Casey and to ask a Jury to still give a guilty verdict on circumstantial evidence is asking too much.. I hope all those weirdos that seem to have lived and breathed every minute moment of this case for 3 yrs like the author of that article and the people outside the court can get their lives back and join the real world. .for their sakes.. it can't be healthy to be so involved like that  ..  ..   

 

Totally agree with those two points Olly 

 

It's very easy to get carried away with the emotions of the case - I'm guilty of that myself.  I personally believe she did kill her daughter but towards the end I moved away from premeditated to accidental killing.  I also now believe that George helped dispose of the body   I am still shocked that she was not found guilty of accidentally killing her daughter but that's just my thoughts and they don't count. 

 

It's easy for us to be armchair juries because we see/hear/read evidence that is not allowed with the actual jury deliberation and I have no doubt that some jury members will change their minds over time and regret finding her not guilty.  I did think the State produced enough circumstantial evidence to convict but maybe the jury members decided there wasn't enough actual proof so found her not guilty.  I still do not believe for a second that she was abused by either George or molested by her brother    I'm also not convinced that the jury deliberated long enough given the serious nature of the case.  It's almost as if they'd made their minds up before the trial finished???   and if they were like the alternate juror did they disregard the opening and closing statements? If they did it could strongly suggest that it was down to a lack of evidence that they found her not guilty not because they believe she hadn't done it!

 

Either way, there has been no justice for Caylee and that's the saddest thing about this trial. 

FM

Heya pengy

 

I think a Jury is given a set of instructions that they have to be sure they have followed for whatever verdict they come up with. .if they cannot find, without some doubt, for one or other of anything in the check list they have to return a not guilty verdict.. .  it is up to the prosecution to prove each point the Jury has to consider for each proposed verdict to ensure they get the guilty verdict they want..they obviously failed to do that fro any of the counts on offer re Caylee death..

 

if maybe there were a death by misadventure or manslaughter without child abuse or accidental death  and failure to report verdicts for the Jury to choose from maybe it would be a different outcome, but there wasn't and I believe that is down to  the prosecutors setting out the charges they would go for in the first place. .I may be wrong tho ..

 

I don't know enough about George to form an opinion on the guy so couldn't say if I felt he was involved or not. .his police experience may have made him react in a different way to 'protect' his own daughter or indeed himself. .doubt we'll every really know why a mother who says her daughter died from drowning then felt she had to cover all that up by  initially saying she was kidnapped by a nanny .. tis a weird way to react to your kids death and disposal of her body but ho hum. . 

Mount Olympus *Olly*

Here's what the ST said, "Justice sees off the net's howling lynch mob!"

 

Senior members of the British judiciary, reared from birth on a rigid diet of contempt of court and reporting restrictions, may care to wonder how a US jury, subjected to what all sides agree was probably the most prejudiced media bombardment in history, was still able to reach so painstakingly unbiased a verdict.

Garage Joe

'We were suspicious of George': Foreman in Casey Anthony trial reveals jurors were swayed by doubts over father's testimony

By DAILY MAIL REPORTER

Last updated at 8:28 AM on 12th July 2011

 

The jury that cleared Casey Anthony of murdering her two-year-old daughter were swayed by the suspicious nature of her father, it was today revealed.

Jurors believed George Anthony could have been covering up a crime or even be a killer himself, the jury foreman in the trial revealed to Fox News.

The foreman, who asked not to be named, said the weeks-long murder trial in Orlando was a period he would 'never forget.'

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Suspicious: Jurors believed George Anthony could be covering up a crime or even be a killer himself, the jury foreman in the trial said in an interview

Suspicious: Jurors believed George Anthony could be covering up a crime or even be a killer himself, the jury foreman in the trial said in an interview

And although he said he didn't buy defence lawyer Jose Baez's allegations that Mr Anthony had sexually abused Casey, there were other things that didn't feel quite right about him.

 

 

'He had a very selective memory for me, and that in itself was something I always kept in the back of my mind,' the foreman told the news station.

'There was a suspicion of him, that was a part of our conversation that we had.'

 
Anonymous: The head juror, right, spoke to Fox News on condition of anonymity

Anonymous: The head juror, right, spoke to Fox News on condition of anonymity



Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/new...y.html#ixzz1Rsiv4Wpk

 

 

Even as Casey Anthony is poised to be freed from jail Sunday, one of the jurors who acquitted the Florida mom of murdering her 2-year-old daughter, Caylee, is sentencing herself to exile.

Juror Number 12, whose name has not yet been released, quit her job at a local Publix grocery store in Orlando over the phone, then moved to Michigan, her husband told NBC News.

The 60-year-old woman, her husband said, lives in fear that her co-workers might attack her in outrage over the jury's not guilty verdict.

Last week the jury found Anthony guilty only of lying to police officers investigating her daughter's disappearance. But the jury's foreman, who is also remaining anonymous, told Fox NewsGreta Van Susteren that most of the jurors feel the prosecution is at fault for not proving how the murder happened, leaving reasonable doubt.

"When I had to sign off on the verdicts, the sheet that was given to me, there was a feeling of disgust that came across me, knowing that my signature and hers were going to be there, on the same sheet," the foreman told Susteren in an interview airing Monday night.

The judge who presided over the case, Florida Judge Belvin Perry, said he won't release the names of the jurors until "a cooling off period" has expired.

But it remains to be seen if emotions will ever be completely cooled over the verdict. A recent USA Today/Gallup poll found that 64% of Americans believe Anthony is guilty of killing her daughter.

One of the jurors in the infamous 1995 O.J. Simpson trial warned that the Anthony jurors will face severe hardships once their names are made public.

"For the first year, I had to hear O.J.'s name every single day," Yolanda Crawford told USA Today. "People would ask, "What were you thinking? What's wrong with you? Why did you do it?"

One of Anthony's defense lawyers, Cheney Mason, told the gossip Web site TMZ.com that his team has received "all kinds of threats" - and that death threats have also been made to Anthony, her parents and the jurors.



Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/new...e.html#ixzz1Rsjn49mZ


Ev (Peachy)

With regard to the woman who followed the case for three years  ^^^^^^^........the way I see it - she is an Orlando resident and it all unfolded on her doorstep. Imagine the residents of Soham and the Jessica and Holly case. Iain Huntley tried to destroy the evidence by burning the bodies - there was however enough DNA to help the case. In the case Of Caylee Anthony her remains were not found for six months and there was no DNA. The 'circumstantial' evidence was IMO overwhelming but it's always risky especially when the death penalty is called for.

 

IMO - the jury found her not guilty on the information available. She was the last person seen with her daughter and lied for over a month - only reported her daughter 'missing' when she was forced into it.

 

I think local residents do become very involved when things like this happen. If Huntley had been found not guilty simply through a lack of 'hard' evidence there would have been an uproar. The difference being there was DNA and more to go on because the girls remains were not totally destroyed.

Soozy Woo

I understand what you are saying Soozy and agree if things are on your doorstep you do follow them a lot more.. it is just the tone and descriptive elements of her report and others I read on that place that made me feel they were perhaps too involved. . too consumed and too ready to be too emotional about it all.. I found it a bit disturbing..  it came across more as an unhealthy obsession about it than an interest in a case and it's Judicial outcome . .this may have grown over time from natural interest to a slightly unnatural obsession..   if that makes sense.. it does in my head.. anyway..  it's just the vibe I got off stuff I had read on that place but then again I stopped after a few articles because of that vibe. .maybe other stuff wasn't so all consuming and as one sided as the bits I'd seen.... 

Mount Olympus *Olly*

ah right got ya Roxan

 

 

the jury can only go with what they were given at the time. .I am still of the mind it was an accident albeit maybe form some sort of child abuse with the chlorofrm..  and then she got rid of the body hence the duct tape etc..  and she kinda admitted to disposal albeit knowledge of not the action of cos she said her father did that bit as part of her defense at trial. .we'll from what I recall.. so she should be charged with something stronger than lying to the police cos for all those months a search was going on for the child  and for the nanny too. . 

 

she's going to be in a prison of sorts even when she is out tho unless she can radically change her appearance.. 

Mount Olympus *Olly*

http://articles.nydailynews.co...mber-alternate-juror

 

Casey Anthony juror Jennifer Ford speaks: 'I did not say she was innocent'

One of the Florida jurors who acquitted Casey Anthony of killing her 2-year-old daughter said Wednesday she doesn't necessarily think the monster mom is "innocent."

Prosecutors failed to pin the crime on her, juror Jennifer Ford told ABC News.

"I did not say she was innocent," Ford said, otherwise known as Juror Number 3.

"I just said there was not enough evidence. If you cannot prove what the crime was, you cannot determine what the punishment should be."

Ford gave no explanation for why it took them just 10 hours to reach their shocking verdict, but said it took a toll on all of them.

TIMELINE: THE CASEY ANTHONY TRIAL

"Everyone wonders why we didn't speak to the media right away," she said. "It was because we were sick to our stomach to get that verdict. We were crying and not just the women. It was emotional and we weren't ready."

Ford said they wanted to render a verdict "with integrity and not contribute to the sensationalism of the trial."

Her remarks echoed those of alternate juror Russell Huekler, who said earlier that "there was so much reasonable doubt."

Anthony's bizarre behavior after Caylee disappeared in 2008 was not enough to convict her of first-degree murder, he said.

WHY THE JURY DIDN'T CONVICT CASEY

"Just because Casey was a party girl did not show why she would possibly kill Caylee," he said.

Ford and Huekler spoke out a day before Anthony was expected to return to court to be sentenced for the four counts of lying to cops for which she was convicted.

Because Anthony has been in jail for nearly three years already, she could walk free. But she doesn't dare go home.

Her parents were in hiding and their Orlando house was surrounded by a small crowd of people angry that Anthony skated on the murder charge.

"We received death threats today," said Mark Lippman, the parents' lawyer.

Meanwhile, another of Anthony's jurors - a 33-year-old college educated dad - was reportedly entertaining offers in the "mid 5-figures" to dish about the case, according to TMZ.com.

"He will not entertain any offers that don't include compensation for a myriad of reasons," said his lawyer, Rick French.

Anthony, 25, was accused of killing the tot three years ago by suffocating her with duct tape because motherhood was getting in the way of her partying.

She claimed Caylee drowned in the family pool and that her panicked pop George Anthony tried to make it look like a homicide by taping her mouth and dumping her in the woods.

During the trial, Anthony's lawyers blamed her litany of lies to investigators on the sexual abuse they said she suffered at her dad's hands.

George Anthony, an ex-cop, vehemently denied any incest with Anthony or any role in covering-up Caylee's death.

In a statement after the verdict, George and Cindy Anthony said that "despite the baseless defense chosen by Casey Anthony" they believe the jury made a "fair decision."

Neither parent made a move to talk to Anthony after the verdict came down Tuesday and neither has spoken to her since, Lippman said.

Anthony's month-long trial - and the lengthy investigation that preceded it - was a cable-TV sensation, with lurid tales of family incest and "CSI"-like testimony.

But a medical examiner never established how Caylee died. And prosecutors resorted to putting forensic experts on the stand to say there was a smell of death in the trunk of Anthony's car.

 

Russell HueklerRussell Huekler, 51, said he agreed with the jury's decision.
By Kristy Wolski, Reporter 
Last Updated: Tuesday, July 5, 2011
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Russell Huekler wasn't one of the 12 people who decided Casey Anthony's fate but sat in the same Orlando courtroom as an alternate juror.

Anthony was found not guilty of murdering her 2-year-old daughter Caylee in 2008 but was found guilty of lying to police.

Speaking outside his St. Petersburg home, Huekler, 51, said he agreed with the jury's decision.

"The prosecution didn't provide the evidence that was there for any of the charges from first-degree murder down to second-degree murder to the child abuse to even the manslaughter (charge). It just wasn't there," said Huekler. "I would say this is a dysfunctional family that's hurting and because it was so dysfunctional that's the way they dealt with their issues and problems. It's a shame because it was an accident that became a murder scene."

Huekler said there were several issues that he was particularly uncomfortable with.

"The first one was the prosecution never really gave any motive of why Casey would have killed her daughter," said Huekler.

Huekler also said the prosecution didn't really say how Caylee died.

"They didn't give us any type of explanation for that," said Huekler. "So again, they were just not meeting any kind of burden of proof. We had plenty of reasonable doubt."

As Alternate Juror #14, Huekler was not part of the deliberations. It was his first time serving on a jury.

Huekler teaches U.S. government at Pinellas Park High School. He said this trial will now serve as a lesson to his students.

He plans to spend the next week relaxing and spending some time with his wife and dogs.

Of the five alternate jurors, only two released their names to the media. Alternate Juror # 16 was identified as 25-year-old Dean Edward Eckstadt, a carpenter from Palm Harbor.

The 12 jurors did not speak immediately following the verdict. Judge Perry has sealed their names until further notice.

 

 

Ev (Peachy)
CNN
 
 

What a quick verdict can tell us about a jury

By Douglas L. Keene, Special to CNN
July 6, 2011 -- Updated 1010 GMT (1810 HKT)
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STORY HIGHLIGHTS
  • Douglas Keene says in his his experience jurors are very serious about getting it right
  • He says the quick verdict in Anthony trial likely reveals how this jury worked together
  • He says they likely cooperated, agreed on what evidence showed, shared values
  • Keene: They likely knew their minds before final arguments; they deserve respect

Editor's note: Douglas Keene is a litigation consultant with a national practice, and served as the 2008-2009 President of the American Society of Trial Consultants (ASTC). He is a clinical and forensic psychologist and lectures at the University of Texas at Austin School of Law in the Trial Advocacy program.

(CNN) -- The jury in the Casey Anthony trial deliberated for two days before acquitting Anthony of the death of her young daughter. Those who have been focused on the trial are now going to shift to what such a rapid verdict means. At bottom, it means that the jury did the job it was sworn to do, and it didn't require lengthy deliberation. To the 12 people who matter, the correct verdict was clear.

Juries are dedicated to nothing more than they are to getting it right. A quick verdict or a lengthy deliberation: Either one is a sign of 12 people determined to do the best they can.

I have interviewed thousands of jurors over the last 20 years -- in focus groups, mock trials, jury selection -- and many are still talking about what they believe to be the crazy verdict in the McDonald's hot coffee case, or how the jury let O.J. Simpson get off.

Jurors speak passionately about how they would exert great care if it were up to them, and they are highly critical of juries that they think failed to pay attention to facts. Jurors don't want to reach a verdict that will bring ridicule on them, and they want to sleep well knowing that they did what they knew was just.

Quick verdicts in lengthy cases are not entirely unusual, and usually -- but not always -- point to several factors:

 
<cite class="expCaption">HLN talks to alternate juror</cite>
 
<cite class="expCaption">Why do we care about Casey Anthony?</cite>
 
<cite class="expCaption">Deconstructing the Anthony prosecution</cite>
 
<cite class="expCaption">Mark Geragos slams Anthony prosecution</cite>

Verdicts are values-driven. A quick verdict is usually linked to strongly held beliefs of the jurors, not just facts. Here, we might surmise that the facts they found most important were consistent with their personal beliefs and values, otherwise it would have required much longer to sort through them. The jury in this case is made up of seven women and five men, each of whom understands the death of any child (much less a beautiful little girl) as a tragedy. If the jury believed evidence pointed to her murder, every one of them would likely want to see the perpetrator punished severely. At the same time, if the evidence does not resolutely point to murder, they would not want to compound the tragedy of Caylee's death with wrongfully blaming her mother.

It was evidence, not argument. The evidence probably convinced the jury even before the final arguments. It is most likely that the jurors heard in the final arguments an affirmation of what they had already concluded from the evidence, and the closing statements gave voice to what they already believed, rather than causing them to view anything in a new way.

The value of cooperation. There is a good chance that the jurors got along well with one other, cooperated and had little personality conflict. Sequestration can be very stressful, and jurors can act out the stress by becoming irritated and argumentative. These jurors evidently cooperated well enough to stay focused on their responsibilities and moved through the deliberations smoothly.

One view. A speedy verdict often reflects that there is a common belief about what the evidence showed. The jurors likely perceived things in a consistent way. If there was a serious range of opinions about the verdicts, they would have had to go through more discussion. In this case, they had to reconcile Casey's statements to the police with questions related to the cause of death. They seemed to do this in their verdict by concluding that the death was not homicide, but that she perhaps panicked and made false statements to the police.

Awareness of the public microscope. The acquittal of Casey Anthony on the murder charge in a case this sensational is going to result in a tremendous amount of negative attention for these jurors. They came to their decision with this in mind. They also were aware that their identities as jurors will very likely be disclosed by some means, and their privacy could be in jeopardy. They will probably be challenged about why they judged the case in an unpopular direction. They determined to do what they felt was right, no matter what the public repercussions. Jury duty is complicated, and not just because of the time required. It is a challenge to do what justice requires, even if you anticipate that it could be unpopular. In that sense, serving as a juror in a controversial case is a heroic act.

Certainty. It is easier to vote halfheartedly in a publicly popular direction (in this case it would have been in support of a guilty verdict on the murder charge). It is vastly harder for a jury to vote to acquit someone in Casey Anthony's position unless they are truly convinced that the prosecution failed to make its case. Whether the public views the jury as having gotten it right or wrong, these 12 citizens came to a common view on weeks of evidence, and found justice in their verdict. They reached their decision quickly but not easily. They voted consistent with their view of the truth and the law.

Being a juror is difficult, and even more so when the issues are as upsetting as those at issue in the Anthony case. As the representatives of the public in such an important matter, they deserve our respect and thanks, regardless of whether we agree with their verdict.

Ev (Peachy)
Originally Posted by Roxan:
Originally Posted by Soozy Woo:
Originally Posted by Roxan:

No perjury charges for Cindy Anthony

 

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43...nd_courts/?GT1=43001

Any news on contempt charges for Baez?


Hey Soozy

 

Theres a campaign getting a lot of attention asking JP to follow up on this but nothing has happened thus far.

 

How's the Yuri fan club coming along?

Severe withdrawl symptoms! Has he done any interviews after the case ? TBH ...........he really could retire couldn't he? Surely Hollywood beckons 

Soozy Woo
Originally Posted by Soozy Woo:
Originally Posted by Roxan:
Originally Posted by Soozy Woo:
Originally Posted by Roxan:

No perjury charges for Cindy Anthony

 

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43...nd_courts/?GT1=43001

Any news on contempt charges for Baez?


Hey Soozy

 

Theres a campaign getting a lot of attention asking JP to follow up on this but nothing has happened thus far.

 

How's the Yuri fan club coming along?

Severe withdrawl symptoms! Has he done any interviews after the case ? TBH ...........he really could retire couldn't he? Surely Hollywood beckons 

We can live in hope, Soozy.

Hi Roxan.

Yogi19
Originally Posted by Yogi19:
Originally Posted by Soozy Woo:
Originally Posted by Roxan:
Originally Posted by Soozy Woo:
Originally Posted by Roxan:

No perjury charges for Cindy Anthony

 

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43...nd_courts/?GT1=43001

Any news on contempt charges for Baez?


Hey Soozy

 

Theres a campaign getting a lot of attention asking JP to follow up on this but nothing has happened thus far.

 

How's the Yuri fan club coming along?

Severe withdrawl symptoms! Has he done any interviews after the case ? TBH ...........he really could retire couldn't he? Surely Hollywood beckons 

We can live in hope, Soozy.

Hi Roxan.

Surely he must be back soon!!

 

 

Ev (Peachy)

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