the idea is a good one......all i am saying is that it's very difficult to put into practice and for a child to dispel the ideas or lies that have been drummed into them by their abuser.....

She wasn't on the programme to argue for ways to end child abuse. She was on purely (no pun intended) to promote her warped idea that 'only girls' should be taught abstinence in schools. The reason she decided that her 'just say no' message could also help stop child abuse, was because Vanessa happened to mention five year olds in her spiel. Suddenly Mad Nad saw that her 'just say no' message could be tagged on to that, as well.

The fact is, she disagrees with children having sex education, until much older. She makes up stories about seven year olds being taught how to put condoms on bananas, without offering any proof that that is happening anywhere. She lies about leaflets promoting masturbation being offered to 11 year olds, whereas the truth is this was a leaflet aimed at helping teachers to promote the healthy side of sex to 14 year olds and older.

Her honest opinion is that children should know nothing about sex, until they are older and then just the girls should be taught to fight off the sex mad boys.

My opinion is that children should be taught that sex is normal and healthy (and a fascinating subject, scientifically), but should only happen at the right age and only with full consent. Teaching children that they can tell, safely, whatever threats have been dished out, is the only way to curb sex abuse towards younger children. Implying that they could have said 'no', only ends up making them feel even more guilty, if they haven't managed to stop it happening.

Basically, she is a self serving puritan, who is well known as a liar, when it suits her cause. 

She wasn't on the programme to argue for ways to end child abuse. She was on purely (no pun intended) to promote her warped idea that 'only girls' should be taught abstinence in schools. The reason she decided that her 'just say no' message could also help stop child abuse, was because Vanessa happened to mention five year olds in her spiel. Suddenly Mad Nad saw that her 'just say no' message could be tagged on to that, as well.

The fact is, she disagrees with children having sex education, until much older. She makes up stories about seven year olds being taught how to put condoms on bananas, without offering any proof that that is happening anywhere. She lies about leaflets promoting masturbation being offered to 11 year olds, whereas the truth is this was a leaflet aimed at helping teachers to promote the healthy side of sex to 14 year olds and older.

Her honest opinion is that children should know nothing about sex, until they are older and then just the girls should be taught to fight off the sex mad boys.

My opinion is that children should be taught that sex is normal and healthy (and a fascinating subject, scientifically), but should only happen at the right age and only with full consent. Teaching children that they can tell, safely, whatever threats have been dished out, is the only way to curb sex abuse towards younger children. Implying that they could have said 'no', only ends up making them feel even more guilty, if they haven't managed to stop it happening.

Basically, she is a self serving puritan, who is well known as a liar, when it suits her cause. 

Thanks all. 

I must admit, I'm sightly allergic to the woman! 

Soozy, I think the point is her suggestion that if kids just knew how to say No that there may be less child sexual abuse......entirely missing the point that abuse takes place within a relationship of power where the victims have no choice/ personal power and are often threatened......So if, for example she'd said that there may be less adult rape if the victims learnt how to say No then I would be offended by that. From my perspective it's much the same..... I do agree that all children should be taught about relationships, what's right and wrong, good and bad touches etc. but that's v different from the 'Just say No' message