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Originally Posted by Antiope:
Originally Posted by Carnelian:

No, I think it's death porn exploitation of a most sordid kind.  The sort of thing you'd expect from channels 4 and five but not from the BBC. 

 

Without having yet seen the programme it's probably wrong of me to comment but I find that hard to believe.  There's more pornographic interest in death in the average episode of Frost or Midsummer Murders than a programme taking a scientific look at physical life from beginning to end - which necessarily includes the bit where you peg it.  One would think anyway.

I agree......Perhaps if we saw more "Real" family orientated death on TV.....we might see less senseless deaths in the news headlines..........

 

I don't know, I did'nt feel the need to watch the programme.....but perhaps those that did would report.......

Syd
Originally Posted by pirate1111:
Originally Posted by Carnelian:

No, I think it's death porn exploitation of a most sordid kind.  The sort of thing you'd expect from channels 4 and five but not from the BBC. 


i know i started the thread

but i agree with you

 

I don't see how either of you can make those statements without having seen the programme, to be honest.

PeterCat
Originally Posted by Antiope:

When I kick the bucket I'm hoping it's captured on film and is a million hit youtube extravaganza.  Assuming it's by my anticipated method - large piano, head, up close and personal (hopefully whilst carrying large tray of chocolate eclairs) - it's a distinct possibility. 

Could be organised 

Syd

Haven't watched it so not qualified to talk about how they covered it. But PeterCat is right in that generations ago people in our Western culture were much more likely to have been around death (and birth for that matter) and viewed in more as a natural part of life.

My mum died in my arms in the hospice and I was glad I was there. I never had all the bad wondering that I had after my father died with none of the family there as he passed.

If this man in the programme passed peacefully then hopefully it may help to remove some of the fear both for people facing death and for relatives.

FM
Originally Posted by PeterCat:
Originally Posted by pirate1111:
Originally Posted by Carnelian:

No, I think it's death porn exploitation of a most sordid kind.  The sort of thing you'd expect from channels 4 and five but not from the BBC. 


i know i started the thread

but i agree with you

 

I don't see how either of you can make those statements without having seen the programme, to be honest.

easy

i just asked if anyone was going to watch it

carnelian expained how i felt

i agreed

thats it really


 

pirate1111
Originally Posted by sproooot:

Veggie, you're right........providing this programme was done in a sympathetic way (I've yet to catch up with it) I can't see the harm and as you say might dispel some myths  

Evening hun xx

Yeah I hope so, losing someone you love is hard enough in itself without torturing yourself by not knowing.

Of course everyone is different but still

FM
Originally Posted by sproooot:
Originally Posted by pirate1111:

sorry if i caused offence

Course you haven't! It's people having an adult debate. There are obviously going to be differing opinions  

well off to the settee to snore/jump/snort

banned again to the sofa cos i didnt sleep last night

so i'll be making noises..noises loud enough to wake that bloke who died on the BBC..

scooby doo time

or

life on mars

or

flintstones

Lordy-i love catch up tv

 

x

pirate1111
Originally Posted by pirate1111:
Originally Posted by PeterCat:
Originally Posted by pirate1111:
Originally Posted by Carnelian:

No, I think it's death porn exploitation of a most sordid kind.  The sort of thing you'd expect from channels 4 and five but not from the BBC. 


i know i started the thread

but i agree with you

 

I don't see how either of you can make those statements without having seen the programme, to be honest.

easy

i just asked if anyone was going to watch it

carnelian expained how i felt

i agreed

thats it really


 

You've missed my point. What I meant was that you can't judge that it's "porn" without having seen how the programme is done - a claim made by Carnelian and supported by you. If you haven't seen it, then all you're doing is stating your feeling about any kind of death being shown on TV, not making a judgement from the particular programme.

PeterCat

I watched, because it was the second part of a brilliant programme that I watched last week.

 

My ten year old son was watching it with me and I didn't realise that this was the programme that I'd vaguely heard talk about causing controversy, until very near the end.

 

I'm glad I watched it. It showed a lovely man, dying peacefully, surrounded by his family. It dealt with it with huge respect and was followed by a moving speech by Michael Mosley about the death of his own father, who started singing and carried on singing until he died. I told my son that I would do the same, just to annoy him!

Blizz'ard
Originally Posted by Blizz'ard:

I'm glad I watched it. It showed a lovely man, dying peacefully, surrounded by his family. It dealt with it with huge respect and was followed by a moving speech by Michael Mosley about the death of his own father, who started singing and carried on singing until he died. I told my son that I would do the same, just to annoy him!

Might watch later, thanks for posting..............and gawd help your son  

Syd
Originally Posted by Supercalifragilistic:

Didn't watch... didn't know it was on...might have watched if I'd known.....I've been there at 2 births and 4 deaths, all bring tears of a different sort.. if it's done without sensation can't see the problem 

It was definitely not sensationalised, Supes.

 

Quite sentimental, but in a very understated way. 

Blizz'ard
Originally Posted by Blizz'ard:
Originally Posted by Supercalifragilistic:

Didn't watch... didn't know it was on...might have watched if I'd known.....I've been there at 2 births and 4 deaths, all bring tears of a different sort.. if it's done without sensation can't see the problem 

It was definitely not sensationalised, Supes.

 

Quite sentimental, but in a very understated way. 

I might watch then...link?

FM
Originally Posted by Supercalifragilistic:
Originally Posted by suzybean:

Recorded it earlier and just finished watching it. It was so sensitively done, and was a wonderful testament to Gerald. My husband lost his father to cancer in the New Year and it reminded us both of the stoic dignity he displayed in his final days and hours. Powerful stuff.

 I agree with Blizz about the series being informative so I'll let my boys watch it if they want. My younger one wants to go in to medicine so he'd have to get used to things like this, and the older one wants to be an actor so it could be good preparation if he 'dies'on stage *groan*

suzybean

i watched it  and i watched last weeks one too.

 

the first one was about the  lottery of birth  and how we develop, i found it riveting, this second prog was about the other end of life , it wasn't depressing or maudlin or sensationalist, i hadn't realised there had been a hoohaa about it, i just thought it  was a gentle programme that treated death as part of life.

jacksonb
Originally Posted by Veggieburger:

Haven't watched it so not qualified to talk about how they covered it. But PeterCat is right in that generations ago people in our Western culture were much more likely to have been around death (and birth for that matter) and viewed in more as a natural part of life.

My mum died in my arms in the hospice and I was glad I was there. I never had all the bad wondering that I had after my father died with none of the family there as he passed.

If this man in the programme passed peacefully then hopefully it may help to remove some of the fear both for people facing death and for relatives.

I agree Veggie.  Mr Cinds & I were with his mother holding her hands when she passed, and I wouldn't change it for anything. (Not that I'm in a rush to do it again, but if I had to I would).  She was peaceful and she wasn't alone.

Cinds

I saw it and there was nothing wrong with it.  It was very sensitively dealt with and the old chap just simply looked as if he had fallen asleep.  Petercat, I agree that it's ridiculous how people judge something and slate it and demean it without even seeing it.  Of course, it would be unwise to watch it of you have recentl been bereaved, but as I haven't (fortunately) for some 10 years now, I had no issue with it. 

 

There was a 'warning' before the show, that someone dies in the show, and the only people who had any right to be miffed or to make judgemental and moralistic remarks such as 'it's death porn exploitation' was the man's family.  And THEY are the ones who allowed his death to be filmed.  Though, what the hell it had to do with porn just baffles me...some people just have one-track-minds it seems. 

FM

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