One enjoyed listening to the baffled and usual suspects  'phoning the Jeremy Vine show to complain. They trot out the same old rubbish time after time. Apparently if we study gay heroes it will encourage gayness. As someone pointed out, we study that 'itler one and Nazism, but it doesn't encourage us to be bigots............ One of the following guests was an EDL spokesman.

I'm sick to the back teeth of gay bashing, colour bashing, women bashing, men bashing, muslim, catholics, hindus etc bashings.

surely x factor bashing is still ok

 

Where do you stand on Bishops?

Their heads?

I confess, I'm thick. I have no idea what you mean.

PS, i forgot the  sorry.

Oh blimey! One feels gulty explaining that Bishop Bashing is a popular term for onanism.

PS, i forgot the  sorry.
Double post. sorry.

One has no idea what you are talking about.  Ok I've looked it up and it's the old coitus interuptus. You lot should have said.

Nope! It was definition number one.

 Sorry, I'm useless.

I wonder what the statistics are for those who get bullied for 

wearing glasses
having braces
being fat
being short
being the new person in the class
not wearing the right clothes
having a different accent
being a different colour

Why the need to have "gay lessons"?  Lots of kids suffer in school but not all of them are afforded special lessons to make others come to terms with them.

I know there will be some on here who say it's in a different league but you tell that to a child who's being bullied daily for any of the reasons I mentioned

 Anyway, and getting back to the subject because I don't want to appear flippant, or disrespectful to Brisket.
The idea seems a good one to me. It has obviously had beneficial effects and cut down on violence and bullying.
The people who were against it all apparently belonged to the "Gayness is a choice!" and "You'll turn my kids queer!" brigade. I'm sure that they meet up in another dark corner of the internet and plan radio campaigns whilst those of us with a lazy disposition sit back and say nothing.

All of that show what a load of shite real life is.

Sorry, I've obviously just done myself in again.  

It's not all shite Cologne 

The point is that a group of gay teachers, or at least the ones on the radio were, have done something positive which has had beneficial results.

So do fat teachers need to have fat lessons? In theory it's a great idea but it could be said that being gay is more important to learn about than any of the things I mentioned. From experience the only thing to come from the bullying of any of the things I said is detention. Punishment. No education. What does that tell kids? Parents have to take some responsibility in all this too. It's not always up to teachers and IMO if a child goes to school with bad ideas they'll project that onto other kids. Kids are easily influenced and if you're gonna have lessons for one type of bullying then you need to have them for all types

I honestly don't understand your point. A group of concerned adults have done something positive which has had beneficial effects.

My point is

In a childs mind it's saying it's more important than any type of bullying they may be suffering. Special lessons - special people.

I'm not saying that's right but it's how a child would see it

If I have this right (and there's no guarantee because I'm having a day for the queen), Cagney's saying that no matter what we are, gay, fat, thin heterosexual, we should be measured by the same yard stick. I agree with that, forget all the PC I'm gay, I have rights, {'m Female, I have rights. Let's get back to normal, why not.

All schools should be tackling all bullying.


I suggested this should be done in schools, in a recent thread about young gay kids taking their own lives. Children who are overweight, ginger haired, or who wear glasses (although, going by my own kids, glasses are actually quite the thing at the moment and kids are wearing them whether they need them, or not) are easier to spot and easier to look out for, and should be easier to protect, in theory.


The fact that 'gay' is now used as a pejorative term, meaning rubbish, useless, not helped by idiots like Chris Moyles http://www.guardian.co.uk/medi...jun/07/bbc.gayrights is a worrying trend.  A simple explanation from a parent helps to stamp this out, but there are many, many parents out there who are homophobic themselves, or don't take the time to think how gay kids might feel hearing things like this. To me, it represents a huge backward step, when society, as a whole, has actually been transformed since my childhood.


Kids who have other bullying issues will, in the vast majority of cases, hopefully, have the support of their parents, at the very least, but there are still far, far too many kids (and adults) who do not feel that they can even go to their parents, or friends, if they feel that they might be gay, or lesbian etc .

I can't quote on this thing, however, as you know I have zero tolerance for most bigotry. This seemed to me to be a very positive story which was IMO beyond criticism. The circumstances don't preclude any other attempts to ameliorate prejudice.

I agree.

I agree too.

Do you mean prerogative?

We've all been watching the apprentice Mrs Koeln! we are indulging in word constructivisationaryness.

No.

I haven't, but if you say so.

 Are you accusing me of a Melissa-ism?


Not sure when the spelling of the word 'pejorative' was changed!
I didn't get the memo.

Who? Me?

Yes, you!

Excellent post Blizzie.