I really feel for you

Clegg and Cable just sold out to their voters

As far as I can gather (from Radio 1 anyway), the hike will be in place this year. Can't confirm that though

Blimey its bad enough that Number son finished Uni with an £18000 debt....gawd knows what the one who has just started will end up owing.

I was hoping to do an MA - I'd hate to think what those costs are gonna be now 

A university degree is going to be the preserve of the elite again  unless you want to be in puddles of debt 

It is abit of a worry... my sister just finished at UCLAN doing a degree in hospitality management, theres quite a big debt waiting for her as soon as she goes in to full time employment


Looks quite stressful, what the hell am I gonna be like when im being chased by double that. There goes my chances of ever doing a masters aswell.

There is the option of finding somewhere in Scotland, but even then the course in question supposedly takes on only 20 students, don't think its even worth sending in an application.

BBC says 2012 'at the earliest'. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-11525031

Not sure what happens if you start next year, as my son was hoping to do.

Am confused...in Scotland uni is still free & is funded by central government right ?

On the upside I also read that the point at which you start repaying will also increase.

I believe if your English you have to pay? I may be wrong there then.

Yeah, they're putting it up to £21k aren't they?

CURRENT UK TUITION FEES

• England, Wales, Northern Ireland: Max £3,290 pa
• Scotland: Free to Scottish and EU students, £1,820 pa to other UK (£2,895 for medicine)
• Students from elsewhere in the EU pay the same as those locally
• Students from outside the EU pay whatever the university charges

Yeah thats the figure i read....

I rather they just kept the cap on the student fees and I pay it back once im earning £15k or more to be honest...

yep I am not one of them never have been and never will be

me neither Marguerita, I'm not surprised and I'm sure there's a load more to come, although I feel sorry for those who voted LibDem thinking it was the middle ground only to find they've voted Tory.

I wanted Labour in. Tried voting tactically in my area by going with lib dem...it was a sort of "Do whatever I can to keep the tories out" situation. Usually it was between lib dems and cons. Failed pretty badly though as Labour actually got votes than the lib dems It certainly came back to bite me on the arse.

You can take comfort in the fact that a lot of people did Meaty, it's one thing to change some things when you get into office, but I don't think anyone expected the LibDems to just about tear their manifesto to shreds. It might explain why they are now only 12% in the polls and looking likely to drop lower.

Smacks as bloody unfair to me! Uni should be free to all!

Make the graduates work for the public sector for say 5 yrs to pay back....the way this is going, as someone else said,  will only be the rich being educated beyond 18yrs of age!..Not a good move!

Indeed, looks like its true aswell... taken from blizzie's post.


"Scotland: Free to Scottish and EU students, £1,820 pa to other UK (£2,895 for medicine)"


Its not as bad as England I suppose... but still unfair that those outside of the UK can walk in for free.

Paid for by English taxes (and Welsh etc but you get the gist)

I completely agree, but this government seem determined to take us back to Victorian times. Uni will only be available to those who can pay for it, at this rate.

We've been to a couple of univerity open days in the last month, and were told that the earliest the changes could be introduced will be for September 2012.  I understand that any student who starts this year or in 2011 will not be affected by the new fees, and the only increase during their degree course will be the usual cost of living increase.  Although the Scottish universities charge lower tuition fees for English students than English universities, I think most Scottish degree courses are four years long rather than three years, which more or less evens the overall cost out.

GRRRR do not get me started!  The Libdems PROMISED that fees would be scrapped and now THIS!  Do they assume that once someone completes their degree that they are going to land a £100K a year job the day after they leave uni, and so be able to pay off their 60 grand debts overnight ?  This will NEVER happen.  Stupid idiots!  Some people will be in debt for life!

Some people are without going to UNI anyway  It's gonna be hard on everyone

That is true onetoo

Its absolutley disgusting that the government can get away with this.

I heard yesterday that for the average student it takes £7k a year to teach them, and as they are only paying about £3k the taxpayer has to subsidise the other £4k..what a load of balls, anyone who goes to university will know that most course are between 9and 15 hours per week and the lecturer just reads out a power point, Uni has very little teaching its all about self teaching that's what's so disgusting about this who thing. Most courses could be done in less than three 3/4 years they are currently at.

Well, they're really ripping off the overseas students then

They have to pay double what UK student pay already don't they? The whole thing is a con.

They pay the full whack... £10-£12K usually

I did not have a lot of faith in the Libdems ..with the coalition I then thought  perhaps they will keep the Tories in line, me thinks they chose the wrong party  to go with and will pay the price with their voters ..

They could be done in that time, but I'm not sure it's desirable. My OH has just completed a Graduate Diploma, which is a conversion course. It basically means that you have a degree in one subject but want to convert it to another without doing the full undergraduate thing all over again.

What it meant was that he was, in effect, doing a 3-year degree in 18 months. It turned out to be a hell of a lot of work with no time to stop and absorb what he was being taught. He now has a psychology degree, is entitled to call himself a psychologist but can remember very little of what he was taught. I believe that the 3 or 4-year courses are necessary in order for students to be able to read around their subject and gain a more complete understanding of what they are studying.

I am slightly overlapping courses but know it will take around 4-5 years to get my degree (if I get it). There are some undergrad students on my course who are doing 2 courses together to try and rush it and already they're struggling.