*shoves Joe's head into the shame position*
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Of course, there's always been groups with pretty boys in (manufactured or not) like the Monkeys in the 60s but they were never described as 'boy bands'.
Are you serious? That's one of the mostest, daftest most silly things I've ever read on the internet. At the time of the Sex Pistols the boy band didn't really exist?
That's correct. I can't remember the term 'boy band' being used before the mid 80s at the very earliest. New Kids on the Block were the first real boy band that I can think of. As I said, the term 'boy band' implies a type of group that the Sex Pistols weren't although granted they were assembled and manipulated by McLaren. Of course, there's always been groups with pretty boys in (manufactured or not) like the Monkeys in the 60s but they were never described as 'boy bands'.
What Wiki says on Boy Bands
Although the term "boy band" did not exist until the 1990s, Boston group New Edition is credited for starting the boy band trend in the 1980s. Maurice Starr was influenced by New Edition and popularised it with his protÃĐgÃĐ New Kids on the Block, the first commercially successful modern boy band. Starr's idea was to take the traditional template from the R&B genre (in this case his teenage band New Edition) and apply it to a pop genre. Some managers in Europe created their own acts, beginning with Nigel Martin-Smith's Take That in the UK, followed by Louis Walsh and bands like East 17, which by the late 1990s ran their course and split up. With the emergence of britpop and the commercial co-option of indie rock, many boy bands were ridiculed by the British music press as having no artistic credibility.
Although the term "boy band" did not exist until the 1990s, Boston group New Edition is credited for starting the boy band trend in the 1980s. Maurice Starr was influenced by New Edition and popularised it with his protÃĐgÃĐ New Kids on the Block, the first commercially successful modern boy band. Starr's idea was to take the traditional template from the R&B genre (in this case his teenage band New Edition) and apply it to a pop genre. Some managers in Europe created their own acts, beginning with Nigel Martin-Smith's Take That in the UK, followed by Louis Walsh and bands like East 17, which by the late 1990s ran their course and split up. With the emergence of britpop and the commercial co-option of indie rock, many boy bands were ridiculed by the British music press as having no artistic credibility.
If you seriously think there were not pop svengalis constructing groups of handsome young men with no discernible talent to sing popular songs before the 80's you are mental.
We can all agree that the name 'Boy Band' was thought up in the 80s, but they've been around for ever.
Yes, i mean.. the rat pack for instance
Calm down bateman.
No that's not what I think, as I used the Monkeys as an example from the 60s.
What I said is that while the Sex Pistols were certainly a manufactured band, they weren't a boy band.
To say that the Sex Pistols were a 'boy band' implies certain things commonly associated with boy bands.
You might call them a heavy metal band or a goth band because they have certain common traits associated with those genres like loud electric guitars, leather clothing, dark lyrical subject matter, but they're still not a goth or heavy metal band.
Boy Band is a generic term which came into use in the late 80s and early 90s and is applied to a set of bands with common characteristics, which the Sex Pistols don't share.
No that's not what I think, as I used the Monkeys as an example from the 60s.
What I said is that while the Sex Pistols were certainly a manufactured band, they weren't a boy band.
To say that the Sex Pistols were a 'boy band' implies certain things commonly associated with boy bands.
You might call them a heavy metal band or a goth band because they have certain common traits associated with those genres like loud electric guitars, leather clothing, dark lyrical subject matter, but they're still not a goth or heavy metal band.
Boy Band is a generic term which came into use in the late 80s and early 90s and is applied to a set of bands with common characteristics, which the Sex Pistols don't share.
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Yes, i mean.. the rat pack for instance
Some of them were in 40s, probably with divorces behind them too - hardly 'boys'.
It's generally used to describe a group of young men, who just sing.
Like those all those Motown chaps.
Like those all those Motown chaps.
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Boy bands and girl bands (and mixed bands!) have existed since the dawn of music. Simples.....
Even the bands with the most 'integrity' have managers in the Simon Cowell mode, I'm afraid.
Name me an indie label and I'll tell you exactly who was pulling the strings and what she/he made their NME bands do. For cash.
That's the only point I was making there.
Boy bands and girl bands (and mixed bands!) have existed since the dawn of music. Simples.....
Even the bands with the most 'integrity' have managers in the Simon Cowell mode, I'm afraid.
Name me an indie label and I'll tell you exactly who was pulling the strings and what she/he made their NME bands do. For cash.
That's the only point I was making there.
Proof?
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Some of them were in 40s, probably with divorces behind them too - hardly 'boys'.
Boys will be Boys... wonders what the age limit is. Reference:
people diss McFly for being a boy band pop group. BUT they write all their own stuff and play their own instruments and always perform live. And yet they get slated
They get slated for singing awful songs and sporting the most ridiculous hairstyles since that Rex bloke off of Big Brother.
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people diss McFly for being a boy band pop group. BUT they write all their own stuff and play their own instruments and always perform live. And yet they get slated
They get slated for singing awful songs and sporting the most ridiculous hairstyles since that Rex bloke off of Big Brother
awful songs that THEY wrote and excuse me Mr Prom but weren't you the one who was blah blahing about people writing their own stuff?They get slated for singing awful songs and sporting the most ridiculous hairstyles since that Rex bloke off of Big Brother
PAH..
I win the moral highground!
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weren't you the one who was blah blahing about people writing their own stuff?
If that's what 'their own stuff' is like I'd rather they just sort of jumped off a cliff or something instead.
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weren't you the one who was blah blahing about people writing their own stuff?
If that's what 'their own stuff' is like I'd rather they just sort of jumped off a cliff or something instead.
Well that's not very politeIf that's what 'their own stuff' is like I'd rather they just sort of jumped off a cliff or something instead.
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