I don't run with the herd ...................I  say it as I see it ..........not deliberately obtuse and I don't feel the need to apologise.

Don't know why you feel the need to point out (again) the fact that my opinion differs .................but there you go - whatever floats your boat.

Keep truckin Sooz!

I think Sam is a decent human being and will be a nice person once he grows up. He has all the qualities.
Edit: This is my own opinion, I'm not in a herd either.

Please don't apologise on my account. I can see where you're coming from. I went shopping today and managed to convince an elderly couple that black was in fact white. Made my day it did.

Oh I will

I'm not sure you really want to know...
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Dave leaps on someone (well, OK: he leaps on Sam), straddles him, pinches his nipples and then slaps the side of his head (to represent a "Carriage-Return").
Dave describes this as "typewriter time"...

On HLs, BB has shown a lot of Dave's "banter", but (AFAIK) they've never shown the very physical and agressive "undercurrent", which has been there since Day 1...

Very true, but why?

Oh lord,it's sickening to think he finds that amusing Eugene,Hmmmm perhaps amusing is the wrong term he obviously gets a kick of some description out of it.

Am I missing something? Weren't all the boys involved? Weren't they all laughing? Are they not sitting together chatting aimiably right now?

He's a bit sinister Lee. He seems to like all that physical punishment. Each to their own of course, but he said today he's a priest, why not trust him.

Starts naked protest to get Barmey reinstated....

As a man who went through several years of uni lifestyle, this banter seems quite mild to me. Certainly not hostile by any means. The thing about us men is, we like the rough and tumble when it comes to play fighting. Anything less isn't play fighting. It may be hard to grasp, but that's just how a lot of men react in large packs.

I would assume it's concern about being reported to Ofcom.
BB has shown some of Dave's rather agressive "play" on LF, but there have been rumours for ages that the worst stuff has been deliberately held back (this predates Sam entering the house.) I don't watch a lot of LF, but I've heard on DS that BB has recently started cutting immediately when Dave starts "typewritering", etc...

Allelujah.....................after reading this thread I'd come to the conclusion that I lived in a mad house. I have two sons, two grandsons and an overactive husband ..........stuff like that is pretty commonplace at my house..

Dave is NOT a priest or any sort of ordained person whatsoever apparently.  He has done this 'typewriter' thing to Andrew, Mario and now Sam.  Dave has apparently ordained himself as some sort of 'voice' for our Lord.  He's quite happy for the guys to rest their head in his crotch and he's quite happy to practically render them helpless whilst he 'lords' it over them with his big breath and the glooooooooooory.  Sorry but its not MY Lord he's on about - its all about 'Dave.inc.' - all in the glooooory and taking the piss out of vulnerable people of course - f*ckin 2nd hand arsewipe he is

Strangely, Sam and Dave's exchange on Wheelchairgate never made the HL's either. They're ashamed of what they put in the house as far as Dave's concerned. And so they should be.

but but BUT Prom - they actively sought out this vile creature for the show.....

It's definitely mainly a male thing, but usually something men grow out of, once they start to grasp how painful their actions actually are.

i don't have huge sympathy for people like Sam, as they seem to seek out and enjoy these sorts of 'punishments', but it does worry me that Dave is still dishing it out, at his age! 

well being that they're not supposed to discuss anything re the outside world and what they've seen and heard it really isn't that surprising is it?

Did they? I know they approached the braindead Keeva on the street because of her hilarious barnet and Steve as a token disabled war hero (I feel dirty even typing that but I know it's true) but did they really handpick Dave?

I believe Caoimhe, Ben, Steve and Dave (and others?) were all hand-picked (or at least fast-tracked through auditions). I can't remember the details re John James, but some special treatment would be understandable considering the distance he had to travel...

Dave was featured in The Sun at the beginning of the year, promoting his "Sloshfest". I believe thats how BB found out about him...

They read about Dave's cult in the Sun and checked him out on youtube. Then phoned him.

Apparantly.

John James claims that he applied and (flew over) auditioned, as normal.

I'm so glad they found Dave and put him in the house. I can't bear to think how miserable the house would have been without his influence. It would have been nothing but arguing and bullying. John-James would probably have been ten times worse.

I forgot about Ben. Is this the first BB they hand picked HM's? I'm beginning to wonder if the whole thing was a total farce all along.

Dave said it - on l/f - others will back me up I'm sure (feel like Ben now ) - cant remember who he was talking to FFS - but he definitely said it - he was approached by them BECAUSE of his u-tube vids and because there was a spread on his stuff in The Sun apparently.  It was on L/F - they head-hunted him.  He was in America or somewhere when the call came thru to say he was thru - he even gave the first name of the person who was calling to say he was thru when  he was speaking to his wife on the fone etc etc...... it was ALL on l/f - but for the life of me I cant think who he was telling it to.

Nah - there's been quite a few in the past. Derek (BB6) was fast-tracked, for example...

ive heard about the typewriter thing and never seen it in action thanks for explaining it.. i knew some people would think i was wrong. but i see what i see in the monks face. it werent play fighting or banter, it was meaning every hit he threw to try and hurt sam.

Hi, all: I've deleted the response that is potentially slanderous/libelous (sorry, it's Sunday morning and I can't remember the difference, except that they are both bad for business).



Could those of you who quoted it please go back and edit your posts? I can't edit--all I can do is delete.



Thanks.

lori you havent banned anyone have ya?

Good on you Lori ........................I didn't report as I didn't want to be seen as a snitch. glad someone did though ....................isn't there something in the bible about if you judge then you stand to be judged yourself? Some of the stuff on here re Dave is beyond reprehensible IMO. I think some folks should take a good look at themselves.

How can anyone write stuff like that? it's beyond me TBH.

ah i see now.

see what? it wasn't me that reported it .................................i was tempted but thought better of it. TBH I think it was a fair cop - unlike your mate who reported a feckin toaster 

please dont have a go at me AGAIN. my mate as you call her didnt report a toaster. thats nothing to do will me either, just because i supported ben. i dont know Z at all. so go do 1 leave me alone. or go report me.

Oh I'm sorry I must have got wrong.

Dave is a horrible piece of work, but Sam is very, very annoying. Won't be sad to see the back of either of them...doesn't excuse Dave for 'punishing' Sam however, because he looks as if he's thoroughly enjoying himself 'playing' with the 'lads' UGH!

having a bit of fun yes .........but some of the stuff posted was quite unecessary IMO. Can someone not be involved in a bit of play fighting without being called despicable names? Asi say I saw it as quite nasty and totally unfounded TBH.