I've been in a similar position with a bloke, and it's flupping agony, waiting!

Yes, I said as much, last night!

Seems lots do agree though, despite the evidence.

It's OK, Supes!

We, eventually, had a mad two years and then I had a lucky escape!

this afternoon sam walked into the kitchen and announced......'it smells of fish in here..is that you josie?'...........i'm surprised she hasn't decked the little berkknobber

No man ain't worth any stress!

  Wouldn't she just love to  

  Control eh?

Its no wonder that none of them wanted him in

Sometimes an early escape is wise Bliz
BTW ion, did you hear Aisylene on BBLB  having a pop at Josie?

Blimey what a read! I don't like Josie BUT I can understand how this whole relationship with JJ1 is messing with her mojo. He gives out mixed signals, saying very clearly in the DR he only likes her as a friend/sister (which he's denied), telling others in the house the same thing, telling her the same thing, but then carrying on the way he does with her. Sorry to say, I think she's just something to pass the time with in the house, I can't see that becoming anything genuinely long lasting when they get out (and when he has an abundance of women throwing themselves at him). He's playing her whether he knows it or not, (I doubt the latter), but deep down EVERYONE's agenda in there is to stay in as long as possible, and they will adopt whatever strategy they need to whether that be fake tears, flying under the radar, faux romances, in-your-face friendliness....etc

Saying that though I don't think Josie is anyone's fool. I think deep down she knows what's going on but it suits her and her agenda to keep it going.

I liked Ben and agree that he was picked on in the house on a regular basis. Every village/pack likes to elect an idiot and Ben seemed to be their flavour of the month. I honestly don't think he would give two stuffs about it now he's back in his own world with his own people though. I don't think the show has done him any harm at all.

Sam is one annoying little turd but he's fulfilling his objective nicely. He wanted to stir up the house and he's done it. Watching LF this afternoon was entertaining for the first time in ages

I think they've all had a bloody easy ride this year compared to former years. No rich/poor divide, no real troublemakers or meanies (like Victor, Science, Charlie). BB need to get a bit nasty, the rich poor divide and a couple of new strumpets in to stir up the Josie/JJ1 thing would be interesting (especially if one of said strumpets made it very clear how much she liked JJ1)

I have never, ever hit anyone in my life, (man, woman, child or animal,) BUT I'm not sure I could still be sitting here and saying that if he'd behaved towards me as he has to her, particularly the crotch in the face moment, I think I'd have just flipped 

Bloody hell how have you managed that I don't know how old you are but I'm impressed!

  I can see that  

No she isn't!...

It makes it all the more maddening for me to watch her ruin her chances of getting further...Despite me not being her biggest fan,  I just wish she'd enjoy herself!

I use to admire her ballsy attitude...

It's clear to me before she went nuts over Tiny tears, she had a good sense of humour, and could roll with the punches...

 ...and throw a few too.

Karma, enjoyed reading that and I pretty much agree on everything

 I'm nearly 50 Karma...maybe cos no-one has really hit me either, I did once get into a 'fight' at school when standing up to a bully, but then when the girl hit me,I just threw her in the nettles so that was the end of that

Me neither, unless my brother counts?

I didn't think he would be allowed to divulge so much information to them anyway ..... what they know about the outside world and how the HM's are being perceived is usually a no go area

Sam obviously doesn't give a s*ite

doesn't want to mention her 'previous'....

Mine was all self defence...    

 Best not. But I can't say I'm surprised  

Aww go on spongee, I don't know about that, although it has been alluded to several times EDIT: woops you mean yours not Josie's?

you........outside.............

yes mine soopes!!!! ............

New hypothesis: maybe Sam fancies the pants off Josie and is doing that playground being horrible to the girl you really like stuff? (He is giving her a lot of attention)

Awww thanks

And I bet that has stayed with her longer than a slap back in the mush would have done!

That won't stand up in court unless you have witnesses. Get yer cheque book out

I think the whole attitude of JOhn James is that he trusts NO ONE.  He thinks everyone is fake.  He stated he hated RAchel because of her "sneer", he's not keen on Corin because of her "bolt ons", he loathed Ben because he's "posh", the list is endless.  The only person he felt he could trust was Josie.  That's as far as his feelings for her go.

He has alot of insecurities.  I understand he was bullied at school, mainly by girls.  So, that has probably got alot to do with the way he is.  Not excusing it, but as an explanation.

In hindsight if could have been worse, he could have said 'it smells of fish, close your legs Josie'. But I agree, she should have shoved his head down the loo. And flushed it. Twice.

Did I read it right that John James records conversations with his own mother to refer to?

I thought that was Ben?

wish he'd said what kit he used to do it... (whichever one it was... JJ or Ben)...

I could do with something like that for my father

Apparently yes,and stores emails etc from friends on memory cards...Scary stuff.

There's protecting your interests and there's being obsessive. And now there's being John James

True.If I thought for a single second any of my kids would even consider recording our conversations with the intention of catching me out telling lies at a later date I'd run amok....What a level of distrust with his own mother and friends,gawd help Josie if they do hook up in RL,RL BB is watching you.

Josie just said...."I am feeling really lethargic" ....no change there then