Just a wee bump because I wouldn't like this to go by unnoticed.

You are spot on Brisket What a nasty duplicitous (I love that word) little worm he is!

I think they really do forget that we can see and hear the whole picture...

He'll get his... eventually, hopefully!

I agree Brisket, he stirs more than anyone in house and not in a nice way.I hate it when people can't win on their own merits and have to pick on other people to deflect their own faults.

But but but he's so lovely ....It's our fault we can't see it.

I'm gonna try really hard to stop being a hater and have some empathy with JJ.

ASBO'D  

I can't win  What time is my curfew Dame? 

It's ok Suze,you're on the yellow brick road it seems in your quest for empathy for him so I'll tag along* Polishes red shiny shoes*

I still like him though - just can't help it

You'll be ok,come with us on the yellow brick road.

Will it take me to Longcat's place so I can disturb his sleep?  

  I'd be tender - I'd be gentle and awful sentimental ... If I only had a heart.

I'd be friends with the sparrows-and the boy who shoots the arrows....Are we sure about this ?

This fits us haters better......Just to register emotion, jealousy, devotion
And really feel the part 

Just before HL's in case you feel the lurve  I couldn't get on the forum 

Sorry, he's still the reason I'm watching the show. Imagine the show without him, with just Steve, Dave and Mario...yawn! Why doesn't the crook, Dave cop as much bad post, the bloke is a con man!

I am not a him and my husband says I sleep like the dead

Ooops sorry

Wish I could sleep

My husband hates me. Soon as my head hits the pillow I am asleep and nothing can wake me until I get up to walk the dog.

JJ is playing the game and he's playing a blinder. I like the feisty characters as HMs because they make BB worth watching.
Corin, JJ and Ben for the final....any one of those three would be a worthy winner

Agree with the line up Kaytee with Ben the ultimate winner!

not a bad prediction for the final line up...as long as Josie or Steve aren't there I'm happy

you missed out Dave

I agree with that LL, but any of those three and I wouldn't be disappointed because they've put the work in

See that's where I sort of disagree Kayee, JJ's not playing a game, he really is a nasty vindictive little tw@t and I hate to see that kind of behaviour being reward. It's his behaviour and not his looksI dislike, and I don't care what people say, if he looked like Dave or Steve he'd be 100/1 outsider in the betting.

I agree with Dame Ann.
No one deserves to win by underhand means, by stirring and lying.
Someone who is capable of telling another housemate that if he argued with him enough he could cause him to walk.
I started this thread because it was an example of trying to cause trouble for others by lying.
A couple of nights ago the way he rapidly adapted and changed his version of the row with Keeley was noticeable. (Eugene's Lair gives a good accound of it somewhere.)
But this incident was a blatant example of a lie intended to smear another housemate.
Not nice! People who do that don't deserve to win.

Do we actually know that DameAnn? Is it an assumed persona? I think he is a spoiled mummy's boy and very immature, but I really don't see some of the things that the JJ haters do in him. Yes he twists things etc, but that's part of the game to get people wound up and they fall for it. Nobody has really managed to put him in his place, Corin's rant lost effect through repetition until she was as bad as he was. Will he be rewarded? Maybe and maybe not and you have a point about his looks, although I don't find him that attractive, but then I'm far too old to pass comment on what appeals to young girls these days.
I hated Victor a few BBs back, but his assumed persona in the house turned out to be nothing like the real Victor when he was evicted. I take all HMs with a large pinch of salt these days, cynic that I am

I'm afraid I do Kaytee, he barracks people on  Youtube until he gets blocked, he records his phone conversations and his mother calls, he researches things on line before he starts a row. All these things he's said, you couldn't make it up if you wanted to and sadly I think that's the person he his. As for Corins rant, yep she lost it and rightly so, but that's a normal reaction to  hours of piss taking which she was bound to know what was happing. I can accept anyone's fault's, but I intensely despise JJ's behaviour towards others, picking at their faults and ignoring his own and those close to him like Josie and Keeva. I couldn't live with anyone of them and probably they couldn't with me either  but his total obnoxious attitude really rubs me up the wrong way.

Victor was a fake by a mile  If Jason hadn't been there I'm sure Victor's true personality would have shone through and he would have done well. Acting the gansta just wasn't Victor's forte I'm afraid  

We all see other house mates in a different light Kaytee

Ah BUT he is playing a game, it's just that he hates the fact anyone else might be too!   His confession to arguing enough to make people want to walk out, sums him up completely, he's a nasty, angry, unpleasant young man, and he'll be more bitter and twisted when he's an old man!

I agree totally Dame Ann.... and  for me it was his admission about what he does on YouTube that confirmed that we are seeing of JJ on BB is not simply game playing, but his natural personna. Plus, as he says himself... he doesn't do fake.... and anyone who can scowl  that much can't be very nice.... IMO

I agree with you too Brisket, I don't think odious behaviour should reap any rewards. If JJ is playing a game then he's more of an hypocrite than I thought, he demands honesty and if he's doing this deliberately he's certainly not being honest. If he's not and this is how JJ is, it confirms what a nasty, vindictive, spiteful little man he is.

Totally agree Baz and I think after 6 weeks, what you see is what you get and he's been consistent in his bile.

With you all the way on this one, Dame.

*Jumps infront of the yellow brick roaders, gurning*

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If only someone had the courage to stand up to him...