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I'm actually relieved that so many of you can see through him, I loathed him from the very second he started all the crap with Rachael but I was in the minority-  wasn't until he started on Sunshine that the majority began to see what he was really like. He effectively ran Rachael from the house, & has now started on Corin and Keely. See the pattern here, the guy is an utter misygonist.  He should carry a government health warning. He really is a wrong un - big time.

 

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A lot of good points there Sky....As a mum of sons I was amazed how his mother could say she was proud of him in there,better still a 22 yr old asking are you proud of me mum....Proud of what exactly? what's he done to be proud of?
Lee, that perplexed me too and her answer was even weirder. I know children are individuals and misdeeds cannot always be laid at the parents door, but FGS she raised him and therefore must be aware of his 'women' issues. Telling him she was proud of him left me speechless
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Lee, that perplexed me too and her answer was even weirder. I know children are individuals and misdeeds cannot always be laid at the parents door, but FGS she raised him and therefore must be aware of his 'women' issues. Telling him she was proud of him left me speechless
Fairfax one thing she cannot say is she sent a well balanced man into the world,I can understand she perhaps didn't want to berate him in public but under no circumstances would I have praised thus sanctioned his behaviour.
~Lee~
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He goes on and on and on about the negative points of house mates until the others and the public start seeing the most annoying traits of a house mate. He knows exactly what he's doing, he plans from one week to another his next victim, now if that's not calculating and manipulative, I don't know what is.
I agree Dame Ann, but somebody who I really think is WORSE than JJ in the manipulation stakes is Ife....she politely & subteley plants seeds in other people heads, in that sickly sweet voice and makes it sound like she is just expressing an opinion, when infact she is  a coniving, boring little cow
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agree Dame Ann, but somebody who I really think is WORSE than JJ in the manipulation stakes is Ife....she politely & subteley plants seeds in other people heads, in that sickly sweet voice and makes it sound like she is just expressing an opinion, when infact she is  a coniving, boring little cow


How could I disagree about Ife 
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This is the prat that sulks and cries when he gets called Crab eyes(Apt) He states he doesn't like personal comments etc..one word  Hypocrite! I can't stand the bastard! looks like he's got another girl in his sights as nis next target,Keeley.
But but but he's really a kind sweet misunderstood young man who needs hugged....Anyone know where we can find a willing grizzly bear?
~Lee~
Blimey oh Reilly - I did  this thread this morning before I left for work. I think that it is interesting how many of us are seeing the same things with JJ.  He has huge self esteem issues. He is scared of true intimacy ( I mean how many men say they don't like oral *ahem*!)
I think that he would see that as making him too vulnerable and leaving his emotions wide open as it were.

But I think that the whole JJ issue has generated some really great debate from both the detractors and the fans. Unlike the banality of DS.
FM

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