However they chose to include the two accusations of Nathan being a bully.

Same as Ben was lucky they  never showed  him on the plasma in the highlight show, perhaps they want to keep both of them in

They might still show it tomorrow to dig a big hole for him.

What happend there please?

Exactly....Barbie Boy who does indeed target certain HM's on a regular basis was overlooked to focus on Nathan....Safe to assume we can expect unfavourable editing all week for Nathan.

I hope so. I consider that episode too important to leave out of highlights.

Only if he gives BB material to work with.

Ben had lied to the HMs about why he was suffering the wrath of the TOT. The real reason was then shown on the plasma screen to the whole house, with Ben being shown to be a liar.

Remember Ben telling everyone that he couldn't do the TOT task, as it was too cruel to his fellow housemates, like taking Shabby's hats?

BB decided to let the others know that he'd lied to them, by showing him being asked to have an arm wrestling contest and speak a bit 'street'.

But it didn't make the HL show.

By the way, Vids, he is a thief, but it's part of his ideology, so it's probably part of his 'charm' to his supporters! .

If Ben wants a clean towel, he takes someone elses. Even when they've told him twice that it's theirs.

If he wants another pillow, he takes someone elses, because he has a bad neck.

If he wants to wear someone elses clothes to bed, he doesn't think he needs to ask them.

Well Ben has been the best entertainment that this show has to offer, unlike JJ who just calls everyone game players which is just what he is.     NO Ben fan thinks he's perfect, just funny and good to watch, lets have a deserving winner for a change....THATS BEN.

I don't mind anyone calling him 'entertaining', but I'm pretty sick of people denying his faults!

And there are many!

Oh he has many faults, but blimey what past BB HM hasn't had faults, certainly past winners have had far more faults than Ben.

Thing is theyve both got faults and I find them both entertaining.

And if he feels like sweating up someone else's t-shirt instead of his own during a task, he will  - even when they've repeatedly asked him to give it back.

Exactly

That's my take on Ben too.   He's a pretty pathetic excuse of a human in so many ways

But he is entertaining and I'd rather watch his type of nastiness than some of the others....but I wouldn't want him to win.

I don't think that's very fair.

Either do I. What makes him a thief?

That wasn't actually the bit I thought was unfair Fairfax (right or wrong), it's the assumption about his supporters.

Actually I would say that the overwhelming majority of Ben fans would be the first to admit he has faults, and plenty of faults at that.

I would agree... and would be the first to admit that he has more than his fair share..... but I have yet to see him be downright malicious, which is why I continue to support him.

Spot On

Yep despite his flaws he has a good heart.  That's enough for me to support him.  There are plenty of REAL nasties in that house but they go largely unnoticed because I think it infuriates some people here that Ben is liked by many.

The shows been on for about 5 weeks now,

I would imagine most people have made up their mind

about JJ one way or another,

Would good or bad H/L affect voting this late in the day ?.

Maybe I should have said 'some of his supporters'!

Apart from the list I've given above, I'll add a housemate putting toast in the toaster and Ben walking into the kitchen and just taking it.
Also he appears to have taken hot water which was JJ's. The other housemates said that if it wasn't nailed down, he would take it.
His answer? "Yes, of course I would!"

The OP was complaining about Ben being accused of behaving in such a way.
I was merely pointing out that he does behave in such a way, he admits to doing so, and his supporters (some of them ) seem to think it's acceptable and his other housemates shouldn't pull him up on it.

I agree with you Blizzie even if we are in the minority 

I agree too, Blizzie. He thinks his place in the 'natural elite' entitles him to help himself to anything he fancies, even if it's someone else's.

I agree with Blizzie too

but I still think both he, Nathan and JJ are funny to watch .. and all would be a loss to the house if they went 

Caoimhe and Ife however can walk out that door in double quick time as fair as I'm concerned.. 

oh and they can take that doom and gloom guy  Mario with them too

oops i am spamming this thread

*tiptoes out quietly hoping nobody spots me  *

Marc Almond? Yeah, he can go too.

Thanks, you lot!

There are plenty I want out before him too, Olly, but the outrage at any ribbing he gets about his appalling behaviour baffles me!

Amazing the licence you can get if you just talk nicely, eh?

One rule for one and one for another ..it is always the way