"Step back" from your friend

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brisket

Perhaps the thing I found most loathsome during the night-time row,
was both Shabby and Caoimhe advising (asking/hoping) Mario to step back from Ben.
At the height of the row Ben had his arm on Mario's shoulders and Mario had his arm round Ben's waist.
Shabby commented on this, and suggested he should step away from his in future - both physycally and emotionally. And later Caoimhe too said a similar thing to Mario.
I don't think for one moment that Mario will heed this "advice", - he is too loyal for that - but it struck me as pretty unpleasant that Shabby and Caoimhe should suggest that.
Trying to further isolate Ben. I presume so that they will find him an easier target when unsupported.
Well how dare they?! How dare they. Desparate measures

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MoominMember

I feel that those two have been determined since entering the house to split the housemates. The more people they can get on their side the better, and they have seized this opportunity to bring Mario to their way of thinking - hopefullly it won't work.
They have no interest in anyone else except themselves - unless they seem willing to be taken over to the "dark side" with them!!

6/21/103:01 AM

jacksonbMember

or, if they perceive ben as a snake(which they do) and gaining unpopularity, they may have some concerns that mario will also become unpopular by association,it could be they were looking out for him.

6/21/103:01 AM

Former Member

One wonders if Ben and Mario have the same agenda in their mutual grooming.

6/21/103:09 AM

longcatMember

I find Ben just as sneaky as Govan and the others. He whispers in peoples ears just as much.

6/21/103:14 AM

brisketMember Memoriam

Well to me, it seemed that Shabby and Caoimhe were simply saying "desert your friend."
And I don't think there's a hope of that happening. It was so blatant, and I think they underestimate the Mario/Ben relationship.
Mario went up in my estimation last night, (although he was already high.)

6/21/103:15 AM

longcatMember

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Well to me, it seemed that Shabby and Caoimhe were simply saying "desert your friend."

Didn't Ben tell JJ to keep away from Govan who JJ considers to be a friend?

6/21/103:24 AM

longcatMember

Ben and Mario then went into the bedroom to comfort an upset John James, and went on to explain their distrust of Govan. Ben said: "He's playing games again, running around from person to person". When asked by John James if he actually saw anything, Mario said: "Personally I didn't, it's just a feeling I get about him".
Ben finished by saying, "Just be careful and don't trust him", with Mario adding, "I never know where I stand with him".

6/21/103:27 AM

squiggleMember 10 years

The difference I find in Ben and Shabby, the two main players in last night's row is this. Ben is full of soul searching this morning, he has been in the diary room and he has said he should not have bitched and he regrets acting unwisely. He is feeling very hurt. Shabby on the other hand is completely unconcerned, this seems to me to be her normal way of carrying on. Her group seem to be trying to split Ben's supporters and leave him isolated. And Goven is trying to earwig to find out all he can from the other group. I know which group I would sooner spend time with, I admire Ben and I find Shabby to be a nasty unprincipled witch.

6/21/103:41 AM

jacksonbMember

several times ben has said unwise things that have caused upset, he then apologises,but an apology doesn't alter the fact that he says them, n doubt he will do it again and apologise again....

6/21/103:44 AM

Ev (Peachy)Member

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Trying to further isolate Ben. I presume so that they will find him an easier target when unsupported.

I don't think Ben will be an easy target, even if they succeed. Will be interested to see any further developments.

6/21/104:01 AM

squiggleMember 10 years

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several times ben has said unwise things that have caused upset, he then apologises,but an apology doesn't alter the fact that he says them, n doubt he will do it again and apologise again....

And shabby? Or is she safe from comments because this is her whole personality, bitching, twisting things which are not mean offensively but taken as being solely for that purpose, not just an unwise remark from a basically nice and supportive person?

6/21/104:18 AM

Senora ReyesMember 10 years

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I find Ben just as sneaky as Govan and the others. He whispers in peoples ears just as much.

I agree, he's every bit a stirrer as Govan is, and last night the stirring came back and bit him in the arse.

6/21/104:19 AM

jacksonbMember

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And shabby?

well if you start a thread about shabby being duplicitous , no doubt i will comment on that in there.

6/21/104:26 AM

Mount Olympus *Olly*Member 10 years

this morning I have heard both Ben and Shabby saying they felt bad about last night

Ben said he felt bad he was caught out being the snake he was being [his words not mine]

Shabby felt bad that she shouted she didn't like Ben in his face. . but then giggled about it after

Both of them are of similar character ..both are petulant and both are overly dramatic.. and both throw tantrums

but both can't see this at all. .

and neither can their supporters ..

6/21/104:35 AM

BazMember VIP10 years

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. ....... Her group seem to be trying to split Ben's supporters and leave him isolated............ I find Shabby to be a nasty unprincipled witch.

I agree on both these points, and whatever the rights and wrongs of the argument, Shabby's only concern, IMO, is to protect herself from the shock of getting nominated! After all... as she intimated last week..... in her opinion, there are lots of people in the house that should go before her!

6/21/104:42 AM

Blizz'ardMember 10 years

This situation is reminding me, more and more, of the Freddie/Lisa situation, last year.

I felt sorry for Freddie, until he started trying to play the numbers game against Lisa and made himself look a total arse.

As for Ben and Mario, I do find it a bit sad how Ben puts his arm around Mario for support during his 'discussions' with Shabby etc.
And the way he called Dave over, as well, at the end of the discussion, so that he could be escorted either side by the chaps, as he made his way to the boudoir, was hilarious!

6/21/104:43 AM

KayteeMember 10 years

I don't know anything about last night's row...not read the LUT yet, but I find Caiomhe and Ife a pair of witches as well.
Shabby is me, me, me, and has to be the centre of any attention going. She is hamming it up to the max, no matter what the outcome she doesn't give a flying one as long as the airtime is hers. Unfortunately, as the viewing public generally only see the edited HLs version of Shabby, it would seem that others will go before her and it would be nice if that did happen that it could be Nathan, Caiomhe or Ife, who contribute very little to the show

6/21/104:50 AM

SpiderMonkeyMember

There is a lesson to be learned from all this, which is if you bitch/gossip/whatever you want to call it, you will eventually be caught out. This was true for both Ben and Govan last night.

6/21/104:57 AM

stonksMember

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And the way he called Dave over, as well, at the end of the discussion, so that he could be escorted either side by the chaps, as he made his way to the boudoir, was hilarious!

6/21/105:22 AM

brisketMember Memoriam

I wonder what the reaction would have been if someone had asked Ife or Caoimhe to "step back" from Shabby.

6/21/105:50 AM

DirtyprettygirlthingMember

Reference: Olly

and neither can their supporters

that made me giggle out loud!

you missed off the "so there!" Olly!

6/21/105:56 AM

suzybeanMember

Reference:spidermonkey

There is a lesson to be learned from all this, which is if you bitch/gossip/whatever you want to call it, you will eventually be caught out.

Yup!

6/21/106:05 AM

Former Member

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nasty unprincipled witch.

Oi!

6/21/106:08 AM

Mount Olympus *Olly*Member 10 years

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you missed off the "so there!" Olly!

I know

6/21/106:13 AM

mary_beeMember

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e: And the way he called Dave over, as well, at the end of the discussion, so that he could be escorted either side by the chaps, as he made his way to the boudoir, was hilarious!

The visions I have of this are hilarious, I hope I get to actually see it.

6/21/106:19 AM

~Lee~Member

Last night was unpleasant to watch imo....Caoimhe is such a hypocrite ,telling Ben to be careful what he says as it always comes out...She then proceed to run her gob to Shabby in the garden I wonder is she concerned anything she says will come out.

6/21/106:21 AM

Blizz'ardMember 10 years

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The visions I have of this are hilarious, I hope I get to actually see it.

Did you see the old dear on Britain's Got Talent, with the two hunks escorting her on either side?
It was just like that.

6/21/106:23 AM

suzybeanMember

Blizz

6/21/106:25 AM

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