Now perhaps he knows how Rachael felt.

Just been reading about this over on DS, couldn't really make head nor tail of it...but some on the WHATM thread are saying it looked like Josie provoked JJ till he bit.

I hope she did provoke him he deserves it.

what did she do how do you mean 'provoke'

I think it started as a bit of fun banter and got personal.

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/fo...t=1280454&page=5

It seems to start around here, from what I can make out JJ was lying in bed Josie and (I think) Govan were winding him up as he tried to doze...saying he had stinky breath or summat.  He bit, said something to Josie about her face (or maybe being fat)

They then had a row, Josie was saying she wouldn't take it like Rachael would...then went and told everyone in the garden that JJ was being mean to her.

Then more arguing with JJ...and something about JJ going to the DR-to bitch, so Josie said.

There is also some talk that maybe JJ is feeling delicate today with it being Fathers Day.

ohh hes doing himself no favours starting on someone else :S

I thought Josie was ok up until now, but she has shown a very nasty trait - and she is LOVING all of this

Not sure, wish I'd been watching instead of clarting about on youtube

I'm only up to page 15, there's another 15 to go...opinion is divided, some say he deserved to be wound up coz of the Rachael thing, some saying it looked like Josie did it deliberately egged on by Govan.

Wonder how it's edited for the HLs.

IMO Josie knew exactly what she was doing, knowing full well she was then going to back herself up with whole 'Rachel' thing - trying to make out that JJ has a problem with women... all coindentally the day before noms.  When the housies told her JJ was crying she was like 'oh ur making me feel really bad now because I've been slagging him off to everyone' - all with a grin on her face

He will be shown as a poor little victim bullied by the nasty girl.

Josie and John James have had a row over Josie's teasing, with the Australian saying that she had gone "too far".

While the housemates were confined to the bedroom, Josie and Govan began teasing John James about having bad breath and smelly feet. John James told them to stop it as he had a headache, but after the joking continued the playful insults turned sour.

As the two, who have flirted since they entered the house, continued to trade insults, Josie repeatedly said: "Is it nominations tomorrow?" John James then snapped, saying that the way she was going she wouldn't have to wait long to be out. He added: "I've already told you, you don't have to worry about that. I'll be coming out to see you."

Josie continued by making fun of John James's hair, to which he replied: "At the end of the day, I can cut my hair - but you can't do anything about that face."

When the garden was opened, John James turned to Josie and said: "That was your warning." Josie replied: "It's okay, John, because unlike Rachael I won't beg for your friendship, I'll just cut you out of my life." The 24-year-old Australian then said: "If you want to go hard, I'll go hard."

The smokers questioned Josie over the exchange while at the carousel, which she initially brushed off. In the house, John James told the other housemates that he had laid in to her because he had an headache and she "kept going" at him. He said that it was too much, and that Sunshine has started to insult him as well.

As Josie returned to the house, she told John James: "You can dish it out, but you can't take it." He replied: "When have I ever dished it out to you?" When John James pushed the Diary Room button, she then said: "Off to have a moan about me in the Diary Room, are you?"

Nathan joked that John James was "having a go at another one of my women", and Josie agreed, but said that he can't go around intimidating people. She said: "It was Rachael's turn, now it's my turn. He's off in to the Diary Room to have a little bitch. He's a little bit of a drama queen, is our John."

She then added: "I've always stuck up for John. But I've just seen his true colours now. I think he knows that he picked on the wrong person now."

Thanks Longcat.

Now he knows how Rachael felt, if he behaved like that outside he would get 2 slaps for the price of 1 from both girls.


Josie is going to get a bad edit now and the OMG JJ is fit brigade will be wanting her out.

hiya Darlo - well I'm not one of the 'JJ is fit' brigade lol - BUT I cant help but think that Josie has done this on purpose - she seems incredibly pleased with herself...

ahh well, what goes around comes around!

just watched the video on the C4 website .... Isn't Mario lovely ... such a nice guy

I've read that he admitted to calling Josie fat.

Josie is full of crap, if she had any kind of sympathy for Rachel at the time when Douche Lord was laying into Rachel, at no time did she stick up for Rachel or make Douche Lord aware that his behaviour was bang out of order. Josie probably thought all the flirting Douche Lord was doing with her was real and that he did fancy her, I always thought Douche Lord's flirting with Josie was an attempt to wind up Rachel, and to back up his false claim about not fancying beautful women. I couldn't care less whether she or Douche Lord are upset....I said from about day 3, that Josie is a sly cow, and you all know what I think of Douche Lord by now.

I was in a closet once.  Bit cramped. 

I saw her telling him that, several times. She didn't get angry with him, but was very clear that he was being a prick.

Guvan Gollum is back in his element creeping about between parties,little toad.

Just read an interesting post by Olly in the LUT, maybe it was half a dozen of one and 6 of tother... either way I don't like the pair of them 

Thanks longcat.
From what I saw, Josie took it too far. Later,when she knew he was crying, she laughed about it saying.. it must have been the crab eyes (insult) that did it...still laughing.
I`m no big JJ fan but Josie knows exactly what she`s doing..as Barmy said...just before nominations.
She`s good at appearing all fun and bubbly but she`s sly. 

I don`t like or trust Josie one bit.

JJ is a prat but I've gone off Josie big time.. as for that gollum!

I hear you Bliz, but the times I observed her telling him, it was said with hardly any conviction, and a sly grin...Where as when Corin, Shabby, and Keever pulled him up they were generally upset for Rachel, and voiced thier dissaproval strongly,  they were more beleivable and genuine than Josie.

there is a god.

does he want to come out   why has he got red nail varnish on ?

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm - wish I'd have seen it myself but reading between the lines - Josie isn't as dim as she makes out to be. I'm dissapointed in her TBH.

Me too coz we are never gonna get the full picture from the highlights and all we are getting on here is people's likes and dislikes colouring their view of the situation.

ooh! goddam  I wanna stay up and watch live feed now

Well, I'd say she was closer to JJ, at the time, but still told him he was completely wrong in the way he handled it, totally over the top, and had misjudged Rachel.

People like Shabby were very vocal about it, when discussing it amongst their 'friends', but told him that it was fair enough and maybe just a personality clash, when they actually 'confronted' him about it.

I know which approach I prefer.

i'm curious  

JJ is probably the only person in the house I have absolutely no sympathy for in this situation. He's so arrogant and dismissive of other people's feelings for him to claim victim status is just beyond a joke. 'Did you see the way she looks at me? Look she just did it again'. Jesus wept.

I have to say I feel the same.