yes, jj hardly pulls a face at all, wouldnt know how to scowl if one bit him in the arse.

I think that JJ is right, Rachael does think she is better than other people in the house just because she is good looking.  She does give people dirty looks if she doesn't agree with their opinion or finds what they say irrelevant to her life. Also her saying 'I will slut myself about to any newspaper or magazine that will have me' I personally found disgusting.

Ah come on now River, thats taking it a bit far. Not a fan of Rachael but in the interest of fairness (and we do like fairness..) she wasn't being disgusting. John James caused a total scene and needs his bumps feeling...he's behaving like a nutter.

I wasn't paying attention TBH but .......if she did say that then personally I find that at best distasteful and at worst sickening. I'm saddened that BB has come to this but .....that's how it's been for a number of years isn't it?

Let's not forget either that Racheal's VT didn't really endear herself to the viewing public not only that - the HM's that followed her in saw it too. I think JJ made his mind up from that ............the dirty look simply reinforces his opinion. can't see he's far wrong TBH.

It really did though FF, for years woman have fought for equal rights etc (oh no I sound like a complete feminist!!) and she says something like that and claimed she was joking? Was she jack joking!! The thing that annoyed me was that she used to be my favourite house mate as  she used to say she had a brain, etc etc but now she's just like every other one of the hussies who comes out of BB and gets their boobs out for any amount of money for any magazine.

JJ did react a bit OTT but I can see where he was coming from. Also, that clip just showed the incident, it showed nothing of what had been leading up to the incident...

OK I don't understand this talk of "the look" that JJ is rabbiting on about, but, when Ben (Rachael's supposed friend) gave her an innocent hug, she certainly gave "a look" to Shabby and Caoimhe, much to their satisfaction and amusement.  I wonder if that is "the look" that JJ is talking about.  Hard to know...

One thing is for sure though, seeing her reaction to Ben's hug made me feel a bit foolish for thinking she genuinely wants to be Ben's friend these past few days.  I also wonder, if she's acting so shallow about this, perhaps she is acting about other things, like this whole damsel in distress thing she's got going on.

I'm going to give her the benefit of the doubt for now, but I find myself having a difficult time trusting her motives.

see, spider, i think she's just thick.

JJ may have reasons which he feels are valid.
But to express them in the way he is doing is crazy and, I believe, shows a certain inadequacy in good communication
Obsession such as he displays will not gain him many friends and may lose him some support.
It's not the content, it's the manner.


Plus - I think JJ has "a look" too.

The look has been there from day one ..............it was highlighted as other attractive females entered the house on the opening night. I have seen it a few times since on HL show. It surely must be something she does regularly if I've seen it in the limited time I've watched.

I agree with this.  People who have to resort to shouting, and also people who have to swear a lot, usually suffer from poor communication skills.  This is most certainly true of JJ, who was making some valid points tonight, but his tone and volume completely over shadowed the content of his words.

Rachel is so far up her own arse she will never see God's good clean air again but so is JJ. They should probably get married.

"I'm used to people fancying me, big brother"  see ya Rachel


Yeah yeah yeah, I'm a vile jealous bulleh!

Her fate was sealed when she stated (sic) "I'm used to being the centre of attention,and I'm not getting any in here!" "No one fancies me in here!"

Rachel was even pulling THAT face in the DR whilst talking to BB - maybe she thinks it makes her look cool, but it does actually make her look well up her own arse and disrespectful of anyone who doesnt fall at the feet of her beautyness - DOZY TART!

And as for pulling that face when Ben was showing her some affection..... dont get me bloody started!!!

You forgot to mention she was fake-crying while saying this.

  so much for being  yourself and honest then,lol

No she gives dirty looks like looks of distaste, the opening night she kept doing it to every female that came in, even Davina pointed it out....

Katty ^^^ someone DOES fancy her in there... SHE fancies herself

I understand that she does that look (so does JJ, btw), but if some bloke, who has admitted to fancying me and has been assured that the feeling is not mutual, started draping himself over me and kissing the side of my head, I may have done more than a look!

Me too, I'd take them aside and say I'm not comfortable with it, rather than doing "the look" towards the Shabby, knowing Shabby spent most of yesterday making him feel as miserable as possible.

As I said earlier in this thread, I find it difficult to trust Rachael's motives sometimes.  She claims to be Ben's friend, but then that...

I'm sorry, but that look was a genuine reaction and she happened to be facing Shabby.

This is `the look` that JJ must be on about - its a real chavvy look of disgust.