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Soops... my aunt has been ill for about three years...  lots of ambiguous symptoms that could be lots of things... chronic lethargy, diarrhoea, headaches, stomach pain, ....  her son had ME for 11 years so initially she panicked & thought it could be that.   Like your friend.. .she's been seeing lots of doctors, each one would say it could be something different... they did go down the Lupus & MS route too.

Turns out it was yeast related!!  I'm not clear on the details of how they discovered it.. but someone made the connection between them getting a bread making machine & the onset of her illness..  

Apparently you use quite a lot of yeast in these machines...  and it had made her really ill. She avoids breads with yeast now... & is back on top form.   It took 4 weeks for her to go from looking like she was dying (my Dad was in bits... he was convinced it was an undetected cancer) to looking twenty years younger.  She's like a spring lamb!  jumping around the place!
Ditty, I'm like that with yeast/bread too, though not as bad. Had undiagnosed stomach problems for years... similar symptoms. Figured it out myself in the end (with the help of a health freak friend ) by just cutting out loads of things it could be, we initially thought it was gluten... but it always got loads worse with bread
SazBomb
'tis very interesting, the book that I was reading for example, said re chronic candida that the recent increase in this seems to be largely the result of the gradual weakening of the immune system from our diet and medications such as antibiotics, contraceptive pills, steroids, tranqulliizers, sleeping pills in the valium group and some ulcer medications
FM
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we initially thought it was gluten.
yes the doctors suggested gluten intolerance to my aunt...   one doctor even suggested they do a duodenal biopsy to look for Coeliac Disease..   but another doctor ruled this out for some reason or another....

I'm not sure quite how they worked out the link between the onset of symptoms, the getting of the bread machine... and just how much more yeast was used in home made bread (as they were making it) to the previously eaten shop bread.

the good news for my aunt is that apart from not eating the home made yeast laden bread anymore she hasn't had to change her diet (though she always ate healthily & I suspect is even more aware of what she;s eating now) or have any further treatment to recover.  She just stopped eating the bread.
Dirtyprettygirlthing
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the good news for my aunt is that apart from not eating the home made yeast laden bread anymore she hasn't had to change her diet (though she always ate healthily & I suspect is even more aware of what she;s eating now) or have any further treatment to recover.  She just stopped eating the bread.
pretty much the same here Except the fizzy drinks I mentioned. I occasionally have the odd sarnie, or toast for brekkie.... I'm only human A couple of slices every few weeks is ok I find, but definitely not every day for lunch!
SazBomb
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such as antibiotics, contraceptive pills, steroids, tranqulliizers, sleeping pills in the valium group and some ulcer medications
mind you... out of that lot..     we ingest more steroids & antibiotics in the food we eat than the amount we are prescribed.   The amount of hormones in the our water systems is significant since the pill first came out (I once heard a consultant blaming the hormone levels in the effluent for the dramatic increase of babies born of ambiguous gender... & gender reassignment in young adults)
Dirtyprettygirlthing
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and it has some awful side effects
thats why I asked.   The cyclosporin results used to go directly to the Consultant for "forwarding" (clinical interpreting the results)...   but we would see the the rest of the blood profile.. .. totally deranged results..   I once asked the Consultant about it and he just shook his head sadly & said he hated Cyclosporin
Dirtyprettygirlthing
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I will be a much happier bunny when your brothers idea for bespoke medication is a reality.  Also... what he says about something being toxic to anyone at any given time....  answers to things such as RA & other auto immune diseases may suddenly slot into place
 I'm not very scientifically minded, and my brother had to explain it to me in very simple terms, but it sounded like a logical progression. He said that's why, even with pain killers some respond to aspirin...and some to paracetomol or ibuprofen. "One size fits all" medicine could be a thing of the past.
suzybean
You're very welcome suzy.  As I said at the start I don't have a scooby because I don't drink diet drinks anymore.  I think having chemo changes what you can and can't tolerate and there's a lot I can't manage anymore.  For some reason we are all becoming more sensitive to our food and drink.  I think the huge increase in the chemicals our bodies are bombarded with doesn't help.
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