The little 'orror.  
People who don't know how to bring up kids should really be discouraged from having them.

but how else will they bump up their benefits?

I saw a young mum, coming out of the Post Office with two year old son in tow. The child was attempting to open a packet of sweets, so was walking slowly. The mother turned back and roared at him, "WILL YOU F***ING HURRY UP!" The poor wee soul stood rooted to the spot, blinking furiously.
I was fuming and glowered at the mother - expecting a torrent of abuse in return. However, she actually looked embarassed, hung her head and took the child by the hand, saying "Come oan then."
If she roared at him like that in public, then how is he treated in the privacy of their home and will he treat his children in the same way when he is a parent? I shudder to think.
Some people really don't deserve children.

My daughter teaches in a school in quite a run down area, which houses problem families, young single mothers onbenefits etc. I was horrified to learn how many special needs assistants were employed at the school to help children who have no encouragment at home to learn basic reading and writing skills. Parents who fail to turn up for appointments to discuss their child's problems because they basically have no interest in them. ADHD needless to say is a major problem and the behaviour of the children is frightening in some cases. The Pe'er of this world are at great disadvantage, purely because of lack of parental guidance, love and attention.

In the past, they just used to call that "being naughty". Funny how a disproportionate number of kids from unruly families seem to have it..

Interesting Yogi and miss lippy. and also sad.
Sad that many children don't even get off to a fair start.
Sad that most will not realise it and think what they have is normal.
Some of this lost ground is hard (if not impossible to make up later on.)
As you said miss lippy - "lack of love".

I agree with everything you said, Brisket. A truly sad situation indeed.

I've just had a rant at my husband - he's been talking about things that should be done and Iv'e said 'well, what would you do'.

So ... what would you do so that Pe'er will grow up being a useful member of society?

This thread made me think of PeterCat. I've not noticed posts from him lately. Does anyone know if he's still around these forums, or maybe he's changed his name?

I haven't seen him for ages Jenny.
He had a birthday thread sometime during last autumn, but I don't think I've seen him since.

Sure Start centres, parenting classes, social workers, child tax credits - all the 'Nanny State' things that people abhor.



Things that Cameron's 'Big Society' would make things of the past.

That's such a scream...Cameron's idol (Thatcher) once said there is no such thing as 'Society'.

Indeed, suzy.

And now, Cameron says it is broken, but can run itself!

It's sad when people we are used to seeing about, disappear. I can think of a fair few that used to post here, and no longer do, for whatever reason.