Controversial and possibly Moral debate...

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RiverRock

But, currently there are loads of ads on TV, Papers and the Radio encouraging people to sign up to be an organ donor. I agree with this completely and I think anyone of sound health should sign up, I have when I applied for my drivers licence.

Anyway, my question to you is, should there be a motion introduced, not immediately but in say 3 years, that you will only be able to qualify for an organ transplant if you are an organ donor. Obviously those who are of ill health, under 18, have had transplants in the past etc are exempt, but should there be a nationwide campaign so that everyone knows the situation, and has 3 years in which to become an organ donor.

Many people will be only too happy to receive an organ but no too many would give one. Those who require transplant largely outweigh those holding Donor cards. Is this the way forward?

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CroctacusMember

No...it should be an opt out rather than opt in thing

3/4/103:45 AM

The Devil In DiamanteMember

Gosh, this is a hard one, and I believe there was an idea of of introducing an 'opt out' scheme at some point....personally, they can have anything of mine....I've been signed up for years and updated it just recently..

3/4/103:47 AM

RiverRockMember

The above is an opt in opt out scenario, however opting out means you will be less likely to receive an organ transplant if at all depending on whether other who require it are organ donors or not.

3/4/103:47 AM

SazBombMember

Isn't being signed up at the minute largely pointless, given that your next of kin can override the decision?

3/4/103:51 AM

Blizz'ardMember 10 years

I would prefer the opt out system.

I have two blokes in my family who are refusing to sign up as donors, although I'm sure they would accept organs, if they needed them.

I keep turning up the volume, when those adverts come on, and coughing loudly. I am seeing signs of guilt, but it could take some time.

If they introduced the opt out system, I'm sure they'd be too lazy to do it.

3/4/104:12 AM

The Devil In DiamanteMember

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Isn't being signed up at the minute largely pointless, given that your next of kin can override the decision?

I guess so, but I have made it clear to my net of kin that that is what I would like, I have even told them they can donate my body to medical science....if people didn't do these things, forensics and such wouldn't be as advanced as they are today...

3/4/104:28 AM

DemantoidMember

There are moves to make the system an opt-out one, which I think would be fairer. If people really can't stand the idea of anyone else having their organs after death, they should be the ones to have to fill in forms, not people who are willing to donate.

Those who refuse to be donors (other than those who can't, because of health reasons) should also be excluded from receiving donated organs.

3/4/104:37 AM

cologne 1Member Memoriam

I agree with the opt out system and anybody is welcome to any of my organs: although nobody would want my lungs, the rest are of sound mind.

3/4/104:45 AM

slimfernMember VIP

I agree with the opt out system too!

Anyone is most welcome to what is still working when I leave! I don't think kin should be allowed to override my wishes either!

3/4/104:53 AM

SazBombMember

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I guess so, but I have made it clear to my net of kin that that is what I would like

Me too, but its why I haven't bothered getting a card etc... I don't see the point when they'll ask my family anyway

Whenever I go to blood donors, they are asking for bone marrow donors... I haven't signed up for that either

Though that is because it hurts like hell (apparently) and I'm selfish

3/4/104:59 AM

JennyMember

I would love to donate my organs should anything happen to me, but I think the medication I am on would not permit it.

It's the same with blood donation... apparently I can't donate anymore either.

Even so, I would like to think that, should I need an organ transplant, I would be considered, despite not being able to offer my own.

3/4/105:21 AM

MrsHMember

I think it should be opt out as well

its important for anyone who wishes to donate organs to be registered - this register is accessable nationwide by any medics with permission to check at the time of your death - if you were involved in an accident the organs may not be able to be used if it was a prolonged period of time before relatives etc mentioned that you wanted to donate

if you register you dont need to bother with a card but it does give a chance for your organs to be used

What Will happen if my relatives object ?

We know that in most cases families will agree to donation if they knew that was their loved one’s wish. If the family, or those closest to the person who has died, object to the donation when the person who has died has given their explicit permission, either by telling relatives, close friends or clinical staff, or by carrying a donor card or registering their wishes on the NHS Organ Donor Register, healthcare professionals will discuss the matter sensitively with them. They will be encouraged to accept the dead person’s wishes and it will be made clear that they do not have the legal right to veto or overrule those wishes. There may, nevertheless, be cases where it would be inappropriate for donation to go ahead.

The following link shows how to register with the NHS for Organ Donation

http://www.organdonation.nhs.u...o_become_a_donor.jsp

3/4/105:40 AM

brisketMember Memoriam

I am not for opting out. I am for opting in and choosing to register.
It's never black and white of course, and there are many reasons why a person cannot donate or receive an organ.
I am definitely on the side of a person positively choosing to do it.

3/4/105:51 AM

The Devil In DiamanteMember

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I would love to donate my organs should anything happen to me, but I think the medication I am on would not permit it.

TBH, I don't think my organs would be much use to anyone, though you can now donate tissue (see below)...

'Tissue donation is the gift of tissue such as corneas, skin, bone, tendons, cartilage and heart valves to help others.

The first successful cornea transplant was in 1905. Every year thousands of people with a severe eye disease or injury have their sight restored by donated corneas.

Bone, tendons and cartilage are used for reconstruction after an injury or during joint replacement surgery. A bone transplant can prevent limb amputation in patients suffering from bone cancer.

Heart valves are used to help children born with heart defects and adults with diseased or damaged valves. Skin grafts are used to treat people with severe burns.

Most people can donate tissue. Unlike organs, it may be possible to donate tissue up to 48 hours after a person has died.

Reproductive organs and tissue are not taken from dead donors.'

Maybe my skin could help a burns victim, or my bone enable somebody to keep their leg...

3/4/106:21 AM

BazMember VIP10 years

Personally I am happy with an opt out system, and am happy for them to take anything they want, once I am dead. However, I understand and respect the fact that not everyone feels that way. Whichever way round it is, I think the most important thing is to make your personal feelings clear to those left behind and for those people to honour your wishes.

3/4/106:32 AM

SuBeMember

This is a subject that touches me very closely. As a person on the transplant list, I feel very strongly that if a person is on the list to receive, they should also be on the list to give. I've always felt that anything still useful when I go, should be used for another. I can't give blood because I don't weigh enough, but also I probably couldn't give blood because of various medications I take

Some of you already know this about me, others don't. I have a group (Organ Transplants) where sometimes I write about the ups and down's of it all. Although, I have not written much lately. Thank you MrsH for posting the link to sign up! I plan to add the link to that group.

This is the group. http://transplant.hoop.la/blog

3/4/106:34 AM

stonksMember

I've been a donor since I was 16 my children have been donors since birth, I think the opt out one would work best....

3/4/106:53 AM

Former Member

i think if they change to an "opt out" system, they would get loads of extra donors who are too lazy to "opt in"

3/4/106:56 AM

Garage JoeMember

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Anyway, my question to you is, should there be a motion introduced, not immediately but in say 3 years, that you will only be able to qualify for an organ transplant if you are an organ donor

No! (That's an easy one!) It's not in the spirit of the NHS. Everyone should be encouraged to donate but I don't believe conditions should be put on treatment.

Go down that road and they will be withholding treatment from smokers, the overweight, in fact anyone who is ill.

3/4/107:28 AM

squiggleMember 10 years

One thing that has always puzzled me is this. If you have been a victim of cancer in the past, as I have, is there a risk in donating an organ? Is there a chance of cancer cells being transferred?

3/4/107:31 AM

MrsHMember

Reference: squiggle

If you have been a victim of cancer in the past, as I have, is there a risk in donating an organ? Is there a chance of cancer cells being transferred?

there is a little info on this link - each donors medical records are thoroughly checked before any organs are used

http://www.cancerhelp.org.uk/a...if-i-have-had-cancer

3/4/107:49 AM

SazBombMember

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in fact anyone who is ill.

they're an expensive business, these ill people

3/4/107:51 AM

marcusMember

God no..How would all those self rightious, look at me types feel when it would mean having an alterior motive in giving !!

3/4/107:58 AM

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